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    The thing is, the invisible hand of the self-regulating market and libertarian logic tell us that he is a better human than everybody who has less money than him or at least he works really hard.
    If you work as hard as Trump, you can be a billionaire, too!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    The thing is, the invisible hand of the self-regulating market and libertarian logic tell us that he is a better human than everybody who has less money than him or at least he works really hard.
    If you work as hard as Trump, you can be a billionaire, too!
    In a free economy, perhaps. Maybe you've heard of crony capitalism?
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    Maybe you've heard of crony capitalism?
    The only kind. A "free economy" exists only in the sense(s) of masturbation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    In a free economy, perhaps. Maybe you've heard of crony capitalism?
    Any form of economic policy devolves into varying states of perverted money grabbing without careful, well thought out regulation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    In a free economy, perhaps. Maybe you've heard of crony capitalism?
    First of all, that is a very stupid link combined with the question whether I've heard of it. How could I be too lazy to search for something if I don't know it exists?

    Secondly: http://bleedingheartlibertarians.com...ony-communism/

    It's not like changing the name slightly changes anything about reality and reality tells us that the "pure forms" tend to get corrupted in some way. The happiest countries on the planet seem to go for a balance between the two ideas. The ones most zealous about one idea usually end up in a pretty bad shape one way or another.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    It's not like changing the name slightly changes anything about reality and reality tells us that the "pure forms" tend to get corrupted in some way. The happiest countries on the planet seem to go for a balance between the two ideas. The ones most zealous about one idea usually end up in a pretty bad shape one way or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    BUT AMERICA LANDED ON THE MOON!
    And Russia beat Hitler.
    If you combine the two, you can bea the Nazis on the dark side of the Moon...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    And Russia beat Hitler.
    If you combine the two, you can bea the Nazis on the dark side of the Moon...
    Sounds like a bad action film. Oh wait they already did that.
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    Sounds like a bad action film. Oh wait they already did that.
    In hindsight, Palin for President doesn't seem that bad compared to this election cycle...
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    I know, a narcisistic psychopath seemingly on death's door vs the narcissistic lunatic trying to push her through.
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    I know, a narcisistic psychopath seemingly on death's door vs the narcissistic lunatic trying to push her through.
    One way to describe Trump's 2nd Amendment solution to push her through.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    One way to describe Trump's 2nd Amendment solution to push her through.
    Dangerously close to calling for violence that one

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Dangerously close to calling for violence that one
    At least this time he didn't offer to pay for their legal fees if they did it.
    So he is improving.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legs View Post
    At least this time he didn't offer to pay for their legal fees if they did it.
    So he is improving.
    Make it extremily dangerous close than if that is true. If I were American I wouldn't vote at all, they are boh dangerous people.

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    Between the devil and the deep toupee.
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    This is the video of the assassination comment:



    “Hillary wants to abolish, essentially abolish the Second Amendment, and by the way, and if she gets to pick, if she gets to pick her judges, nothing you can do, folks…Although the Second Amendment people maybe there is, I dunno.”

    So many ways of interpriting what it means; assassination, civil war, impeachment by pro second amendment congress/senate, rally of second amendment supporters behind trump getting him elected? Not to mention was it a joke, prediction, endorsment, trumpism?

    Either way I'm not exactly impressed that this got more coverage than the story of the British mental patient who actually tried to assassinate Trump.
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    Wasnt there also the story today of that guy who scaled part of Trump tower in New York? I think he got to the 12th floor before he was pulled inside.

    EDIT: he got to the 21st floor. I think thats impressive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    So many ways of interpriting what it means; assassination, civil war, impeachment by pro second amendment congress/senate, rally of second amendment supporters behind trump getting him elected? Not to mention was it a joke, prediction, endorsment, trumpism?
    Maybe that is intentional? He says so many things that are "misinterpreted" and yet he uses such a simple language. Perhaps he should express himself clearer , as a businessman he should know that miscommunication can lead to big trouble. Don't be so naive to think he just has one vocal accident after another. I think the government calls it plausible deniability. Like, if nothing happens, he made a pro 2nd amendment statement, if someone shoots Hillary, he never meant it that way and noone can prove otherwise because he was so vague with his statement. He is a terrible person and I don't just say that because he is rich.


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    Kind of like how the far-right in Israel were having rallies in the early 90's where they were chanting "with blood and fire we'll throw Rabin out!" Not to mention the infamous rally where they had a coffin with Rabin's name on it. Sure, people like Netanyahu who were leading those rallies can deny that they encouraged the assassination, but they certainly didnt do anything to stop the ugly things being thrown around. So when video surfaces of Trump rallies where people are shouting to hang Hillary, one cant help but wonder how long it will be until someone actually tries to do it.
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    Maybe Trump has been working for Hillary this whole time. What better way to guarantee yourself the presidency than to have your only opponent say everything stupid that he possibly could. Yesterdays rally where he said and I quote here:

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    He is the founder of ISIS. He is the founder of ISIS. He’s the founder. He founded ISIS. And I would say the co-founder would be crooked Hillary Clinton. Co-founder. Crooked Hillary Clinton.
    My 6 year old cousin debates like that. He repeats the same thing over and over and over (I want this I want this I want this). I give up, this election is Clintons. This whole thing has been a farce.
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    I think its more a scathing indictment of the GOP base than anything else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veho Nex View Post
    Maybe Trump has been working for Hillary this whole time. What better way to guarantee yourself the presidency than to have your only opponent say everything stupid that he possibly could. Yesterdays rally where he said and I quote here:



    My 6 year old cousin debates like that. He repeats the same thing over and over and over (I want this I want this I want this). I give up, this election is Clintons. This whole thing has been a farce.
    Thar thought sneaks up on me sometimes as well, how can you say some things THAT dumb

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    Thar thought sneaks up on me sometimes as well, how can you say some things THAT dumb
    Perhaps his whole campaign is just a publicity stunt done as a joke, he probably over estimated the intelligence of a large proportion of the people who voted in the Republican primary.

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    Trump gets a lot of shit for his "build the wall" rhetoric and stance on immigrants but when it comes down to actual policies the Democrats under Clinton and Obama aren't much better:

    https://www.jacobinmag.com/2016/08/i...-barack-obama/

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    Ungh.... The Clintons are so slimy that it almost makes me want to vote for Trump.


    Of course, then I realize what a ego-centric, morally bankrupt mental midget Trump is. Which is why I can't in good conscience vote for either of them.


    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    Any form of economic policy devolves into varying states of perverted money grabbing without careful, well thought out regulation.
    If by well thought out, you mean 'restrained and minimalist', I might agree with you. Virtually all regulation is driven by special interests- most of whom are looking to line their own pockets.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    Virtually all regulation is driven by special interests- most of whom are looking to line their own pockets.
    This argument is at about the level of the argument that criminals will get guns despite gun laws.

    If you have "restrained and minimalist" regulation, you're going to have people who will easily circumvent basic laws for their own gain. You need regulation to establish firm and clear guidelines. You can't have simple laws for a complex system. I'm sorry. It just won't work.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hooahguy View Post
    I think its more a scathing indictment of the GOP base than anything else.
    Much of the GOP base was voting for someone else. Unfortunately, several someone elses. Trump took some of the TEA party side, and a whole lotta new faces came to the polls to vote to "Build that Wall!" or "Flog the system!" The Base never did settle on a candidate -- never got below two others -- and Trump went first past the post.

    The GOP is neither grand nor much of a party....it is simply looking very old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Much of the GOP base was voting for someone else. Unfortunately, several someone elses. Trump took some of the TEA party side, and a whole lotta new faces came to the polls to vote to "Build that Wall!" or "Flog the system!" The Base never did settle on a candidate -- never got below two others -- and Trump went first past the post.

    The GOP is neither grand nor much of a party....it is simply looking very old.
    The Democratic Party is even older though. Perhaps the Republicans need to get back to their roots and campaign to abolish slavery.

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