Quote Originally Posted by Kralizec View Post
I have always tried to vote for candidates who I find convincing, because they support their views with sound arguments and data. Generally those are candidates which are part of the "elite" that people like Trump like to whine about.

If that counts as saloon room abstractions, so be it. I am not ashamed about it and I won't apologize for it. Screw the "working class" in that case.

FYI, I'm a low income worker. Most of my collegues wouldn't vote for a guy like Trump either. "Working class" in a context like this is just a euphenism for intellectually lazy people who get their political beliefs from their gut. And I don't mean lowly educated- there's a difference.
When has Hillary ever supported anything soundly? Maybe the early 90s when she was on about healthcare? They tried to shove her down our throats because, and I quote, "it's her turn". What the hell kind of message is that to the electorate? For 30 years she said she would help the middle class and for 30 years they have been dying on the vine.

These elites have sold middle America a bag of lies. They've gutted unions, destroyed heath care, taken away jobs, left the infrastructure to rot, and spent American blood on forigen misadventures. Trump is shifty snake oil salesman with no real convictions, but he isn't them and that's what matters.

You people still can't see past your nose.