Europa Barbarorum 2.08e is released!

**QuintusSertorius** · 05-22-2015, 01:10

Originally Posted by QWE_asd

So we are done with colony system for 2.02 testing?

I think so; I've restored the old one for how.

**QWE_asd** · 05-22-2015, 19:34

AI is passive, most(90%) of the rebel towns are still there after 100th turn. AI refuse to attack rebel town even with multiple stacks of army.Playing M/M.

**edyzmedieval** · 05-22-2015, 21:26

I managed to go around it somehow by saving the game every turn before clicking on the End Turn button, but sometimes CTDs still occur.

They only occur when the factions are "loading" their own turn movements. (after End Turn button)

**QuintusSertorius** · 05-22-2015, 23:10

Originally Posted by QWE_asd

AI is passive, most(90%) of the rebel towns are still there after 100th turn. AI refuse to attack rebel town even with multiple stacks of army.Playing M/M.

Keeping a particular eye on CAI feedback. Keep it coming. Which faction are you playing, and which other factions are you observing?

Originally Posted by edyzmedieval

I managed to go around it somehow by saving the game every turn before clicking on the End Turn button, but sometimes CTDs still occur.

They only occur when the factions are "loading" their own turn movements. (after End Turn button)

That sounds like a possible installation problem - does it do that with a clean installation of 2.01?

**edyzmedieval** · 05-22-2015, 23:42

Yes, it actually did, but rarely. I started a test Romani for 2.01, and I got a CTD on turn 12. Then again on turn 33.

It's just on End Turn, that's it, nothing else. Battles work fine, campmap works fine.

**QWE_asd** · 05-23-2015, 00:13

I'm playing parthia, attacked seleukeia on turn 1. Took the eastern half of it, faced little to no resistance.
After I asked for peace, seleukeia never tries to retake its lands even though my border cities only have one garrison, and it always leaves its border defendless.
This happens to all AI factions, baktria lost marakanda to rebels and never bother to take it back despite having 3 stacks of field army.
Rome took taras and stopped there as in every campaign I played since 2.02 is out. I don't think AI has attacked any rebel city. Most 1 settlement factions are still 1 settlement.

I think the problem is at the beginning the AI think it's too weak to attack the rebel town, when the AI built up its army it went bankrupt and become passive.

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**charlieh** · 05-23-2015, 10:10

Hello there EB2 team. Thanks for your efforts in the new release. I have a couple of points to raise. Apologies if this is repeat material. Please also note, this is only after approximately ten turns.

In each iteration of EB2 there has been a problem with AI path-finding/stack merging for the Carthaginian armies at Lilibeo. Here is a picture.

https://i.imgur.com/rH7lhHr.jpg

It seems as if the two armies are trying to merge and then board the ship (which keeps close to the coast), but is unable to do so. Instead, the two armies keep moving past each other along that narrow strip of coast.

Another point. Armies tend to move in and out of small settlements multiple times after each turn. Here is a picture

https://i.imgur.com/6XNyaJ3.jpg

This Epirote army moved in and out of the minor settle four times on the last turn. Could this be rationalised as raiding? Also, as you can see, I have an army waiting at the border, so not sure if this is defensive behaviour.

Another point, which is most pleasing to see, is the abundance of diplomatic activity. Only after a short time, I have been asked for alliances by both the Aedui tribe and the Nabataens. Here is a picture.

https://i.imgur.com/k1z5FQq.jpg

This is great work.

I'm afraid I am a slow player, but I will shall post further observations as I continue. If there is anything specific you wish for me to look for on this Roman campaign, let me know.

Cheers, Charlie

**QuintusSertorius** · 05-23-2015, 19:18

Thanks for pointing out the particular problem with Lilibeo.

The minor settlement bug, as the behaviour you're witnessing is called, is known. We're looking for a way to fix that. Campaign AI is going to be tweaked again, as is the economic assistance script.

Good to see lots of diplomatic activity - as a note for 2.02c, diplomats are much easier to come by than they were.

**z3n** · 05-28-2015, 02:52

Originally Posted by charlieh

Hello there EB2 team. Thanks for your efforts in the new release. I have a couple of points to raise. Apologies if this is repeat material. Please also note, this is only after approximately ten turns.

In each iteration of EB2 there has been a problem with AI path-finding/stack merging for the Carthaginian armies at Lilibeo. Here is a picture.

https://i.imgur.com/rH7lhHr.jpg

It seems as if the two armies are trying to merge and then board the ship (which keeps close to the coast), but is unable to do so. Instead, the two armies keep moving past each other along that narrow strip of coast.

Another point. Armies tend to move in and out of small settlements multiple times after each turn. Here is a picture

https://i.imgur.com/6XNyaJ3.jpg

This Epirote army moved in and out of the minor settle four times on the last turn. Could this be rationalised as raiding? Also, as you can see, I have an army waiting at the border, so not sure if this is defensive behaviour.

Another point, which is most pleasing to see, is the abundance of diplomatic activity. Only after a short time, I have been asked for alliances by both the Aedui tribe and the Nabataens. Here is a picture.

https://i.imgur.com/k1z5FQq.jpg

This is great work.

I'm afraid I am a slow player, but I will shall post further observations as I continue. If there is anything specific you wish for me to look for on this Roman campaign, let me know.

Cheers, Charlie

Thanks for this, I always wanted to know whether that implementation of aedui/nabataens being more willing for an alliance with rome would work as I intended.

As to moving in and out of the minor fort- I believe it's due to the default CAI within the executable itself conflicting with the xml decision entries. XML takes precedence over the default CAI and eventually overrides it. According to a fellow team member- in any mod with permanent forts this problem happens at times happening until the army runs out of movement points, so be thankful it only happens four times. (joke) :)

The carthaginian army there I have marked myself, nonetheless thank you for reporting it every report like that is useful - as it is a problem the team will address in the future (my cohort a skilled mapper will attack the remaining CAI pathfinding problems through map improvements to the best of his ability).