Europa Barbarorum 2.08e is released!

[z3n]

I've gone through and revised it. A variant of 2.03/2.05 will be in the next releases although I still plan to revisit this one in the future for those who like longer campaigns with roleplay involved.

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

Something is broken in the AI in 2.06a. The AI factions can fight each other and the player but they don't expand into rebel territory, they're almost completely unable to take rebel provinces. They may be less aggressive in general as well, but it's certain they're terrified of rebel lands.





Two different games (player Epirus, player Baktria), both on the recommended H/M settings with scripts activated etc. As far as I can tell, over the two there was only one rebel province conquered by the AI, and that was by the Ptolemies after over 10 years (it then rebelled to Saba and was recaptured by the Ptolies).

Well...that seems pretty early game, and I quite like the idea that the main factions aren't just steam-rollering the eleutheroi.

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

I've gone through and revised it. A variant of 2.03/2.05 will be in the next releases although I still plan to revisit this one in the future for those who like longer campaigns with roleplay involved.

Yeah...pretty much what I was getting at. For those who like to turtle their way through a campaign this looks promising. Any chance of an optional CAI (like an official submod)?

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.06d:

• Some more archer adjustments.
• Revision of Arabian recruitment.
• Moved Allied Government requirements for infrastructure to the end of the lines.
• Added Hayastan war-trigger over Kartli.
• Corrected error introduced into Baktrian mission. Also the Galatian trigger in Pergamon Kingship script.
• Corrected ethnicity entry for Maeotis Client Ruler.
• Changed polis_two requirement for Bosporans to Oligarchy.
• Adjusted some financial support to rein in Pergamon and Makedonia.
• Corrected the name-change part of the script.
• Changes to the factional precursor and alliedstate bonuses/penalties to encourage the AI to build factional.
• AI Governor bonuses reduced to make it harder for them to cope with unrest.
• Corrected non-displaying of Rector Provinciae trait.
• Some minor changes to Italian regional recruitment for Numidia and Carthage.
• Adjustment to Saka reform script - no longer linking Royal Satrapy to royal_core hidden_resource - instead you can build one wherever you like.
• Reverted to CAI more in the vein of 2.03-2.05 - ie more aggressive.
• More BAI updates

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.06e:

• Alteration to the campaign-difficulty-related triggers for AIGovernor and AIGeneral
• Removed royal_core from Alexandropolis and Girnar.
• Plugged hole in Italic Client availability that had them in Britain. Same with eastcol recruitment on Shardin/Korsim.
• Replaced faction_standing file with one shorn of irrelevant, error-logging vanilla lines.
• Adjustment of Anatolian Spearmen and Hai Spearmen and knock-on effect on Armenian roster.
• Naval recruitment added to Caucasus.
• Adjustment of Good/Bad Disciplinarian and impact of sacking/not sacking settlements.
• Fixed the crash-causing BAI/siege bug.

[z3n]

(Cue hype)
There'll be a relatively major update to the BAI soon.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.07a:

• Corrected some syntax errors in the EDCT and EDA. Primary impact on Taksashila offices which should now function correctly.
• Highlanders recruited from certain Pontic and Armenian government buildings start with experience.
• Corrections to Hayastan and Baktrian missions - one CTD-causing, the other a missing script.
• Prevented the double-qualification of Direct Mauryan Government in India - which prevents the tribal government appearing after independence.
• Corrected the unique building bonus in Armavir and several other places.
• Change to conversion mechanics - owner rates halved (so equal to founder/neighbour) and governor influence halved.
• Corrected faulty syntax in requirements for the gandhara_viceroyal.
• Reworking of Migration governments for barbarian factions.
• Fixed copy-paste error in Confederates line of triggers. Thanks to myarta!
• Reverted archers and slingers to the previous mechanics.
• Replaced unit scripting with a BAI update - the scripting isn't ready yet.
• Changed the nine factions using the Teutonic system of family structure to regular family tree. EDCT adjusted with regards ethnicities.

Now would be a good time to test Baktria, or indeed one of the newly family-tree'd factions (KH and most of the "barbarians").

EDIT: Pulled this one, the unit scripting isn't ready yet. It'll have an update to the regular BAI instead.
EDIT2: Re-issued as 2.07a removing the unfinished script. Note in-game it still says 2.07 - but the zip file is the correct version.

[Arsaces]

Just out of curiosity, are all the updates/patches not save game compatible? Would like some clarification on this please.

[QuintusSertorius]

Just out of curiosity, are all the updates/patches not save game compatible? Would like some clarification on this please.

Like it says in the first post, none of the patches are savegame compatible. You need a new campaign each time.

[Christianus]

Hello Super-Duper EB team:)

"Replaced unit scripting with a BAI update - the scripting isn't ready yet."

What Is the plan with unit scripting/what does It consist of?

Best regards

[z3n]

I would prefer to keep it quiet until a later date but there's two advantages one gameplay based, the other history based.

[Arsaces]

Changelist for 2.07a:

• Corrected some syntax errors in the EDCT and EDA. Primary impact on Taksashila offices which should now function correctly.
• Highlanders recruited from certain Pontic and Armenian government buildings start with experience.
• Corrections to Hayastan and Baktrian missions - one CTD-causing, the other a missing script.
• Prevented the double-qualification of Direct Mauryan Government in India - which prevents the tribal government appearing after independence.
• Corrected the unique building bonus in Armavir and several other places.
• Change to conversion mechanics - owner rates halved (so equal to founder/neighbour) and governor influence halved.
• Corrected faulty syntax in requirements for the gandhara_viceroyal.
• Reworking of Migration governments for barbarian factions.
• Fixed copy-paste error in Confederates line of triggers. Thanks to myarta!
• Reverted archers and slingers to the previous mechanics.
• Replaced unit scripting with a BAI update - the scripting isn't ready yet.
• Changed the nine factions using the Teutonic system of family structure to regular family tree. EDCT adjusted with regards ethnicities.

Now would be a good time to test Baktria, or indeed one of the newly family-tree'd factions (KH and most of the "barbarians").

EDIT: Pulled this one, the unit scripting isn't ready yet. It'll have an update to the regular BAI instead.
EDIT2: Re-issued as 2.07a removing the unfinished script. Note in-game it still says 2.07 - but the zip file is the correct version.

I can confirm that atleast for me, the mission for Baktria that causes a CTD, doesn't anymore.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.07b:

• Adjustment to conversion rates
• Cultural conversion removed from higher-tier Bosporan buildings. Only the earlier nomadic structures are supposed to convert.
• Fast conversion from converting building reduced by 1/3.
• Fixed the Tirdad/new Parthian traits bug. Also fixed the Lugian suitors with multiple ethnicities.
• More Client Ruler descriptions added.
• Further reduction of the order-bonus effects of the AIGovernor trait (ie AI empires will be less stable).
• Reduced the garrison of Sarmizsegethusa slightly to aid AI-Getai's early expansion.
• Changed Saba Precursor minimum settlement size to village - same as all the rest. Also revised requirement of city for their precursor and tribal governments.
• Adjustments to Roman stats (morale lowered by one point) and Machairophoroi get ap as intended.
• Change to requirements for Basilike Patris (top-tier Hellenistic government) - now need polis_two and helcol_two, rather than polis_three and helcol_three. However, you can only build one of them. This has most immediate impact on Makedonia, who don't start with one and have to wait a long time otherwise.
• Slight tweak to recruitment in Bosporan Tyrranos and Paradynastes.
• Use of non-existent unit in Boii mission script corrected.
• Market in Saka capital changed to caravans.
• Correct to Hayastan independence script to match that of Baktria.
• Adjustments to agent traits and thresholds.
• Update to Nabataean reforms - now with an AI trigger/fallback.
• Revision to some garrisons in Arabia.

[Ludens]

Shall I update the title of the thread? Because on the forum index it still says 2.04.

[QuintusSertorius]

Shall I update the title of the thread? Because on the forum index it still says 2.04.

Yes, please. Make it 2.07 - that'll be close enough.

[Ludens]

Yes, please. Make it 2.07 - that'll be close enough.

Done.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.08:

• Hardy removed from Camillian Principes - omission before. Alteration to recruit_offset_priority to make for more balanced AI armies.
• Expanded Numidian family tree to be less rarified.
• Lowered requirement for first level of temple for Numidia by one. Adjusted Sab'yn access to battle/governor's temples to saba_tribal.
• saba_tribal now rel_d or rel_c 20% - but saba_clients rel_c 40%
• Change to Marian reform mechanics. Municip cannot be built anywhere but Roma until the reform.
• BAI, CAI and diplomacy updates. Updated faction standing (so no longer the vanilla file).
• Unit-based battle script ready for testing. Make sure you activate the script at the beginning of the battle (by clicking on the advisor's face).
• Slight increase in Boii starting units.
• Bosporan Royal Satrapy restructured and restriction to a single one removed. Helleno-Nomadic Satrapy also altered. Free upkeep added to Allied/Subject Clan.
• Fallback added to Hayastan/Baktrian scripts - if Seleukids die, both are automatically made independent.
• Changed placeholder "Thraikian" cavalry unit from Hippotoxotai to Mezenai.

[z3n]

Here's the 2.08 scripts hotfix, save game compatible. Let me know if it doesn't work for you but I've ran several tests and it works fine for me, as this information isn't looked up in an array. It's simply external commands parsed into the exe only after activation of the script. Which in turn means there's no file version detection.

Installation process is exactly the same as 2.08, just extract into your EBII folder say yes to the overwrite and you're done. Thank you to all the people who reported the bug.

1) Attacking siege/reinforcements behaviour fixed
2) Defensive field AI now has proper previously intended reactions to your behaviour

Download from dropbox or depositfiles.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.08a:

• Altered granary building requirements for Rome (as input into Marian reforms).
• Changed fallback for Hayastan/Baktrian scripts to Seleukids have less than 5 provinces. Also added to Pergamon's kingship script.
• Removed the "no eastcol present" restriction from Seleukid and Baktrian native administration governments. Not a constraint on any other faction's Laarchia. Also added upgrade path from Supervised Hellenic to Satrapy.
• Changed secondary spear animation for Redoi to underhand.
• Added a "Skythia" pool to Bosporan Allied/Subject Clan buildings.
• Missing hyparchia hidden_resources added to provinces in eastern Anatolia and central Caucasus.
• Updated traits regarding Paranoia
• Updated battle script so no more passive attacking AI (also issued as a hotfix by z3n).
• Revised the Helleno-Nomadic Satrapy again - polis condition is impossible to meet. So now it has a mixed pool, but is only build-able in Sarmatia (as originally intended - not Skythia too).
• Corrected Numidian government building upgrade paths which had unnecessary conditions.
• Changed missile hit rates against infantry (0.425) and cavalry (0.475) to make missiles a little more effective.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.08b:

• Increased accuracy of javelins.
• Colonist advisor pop-ups no longer appear after turn 64 - everyone should have gotten the hang of it by then.
• Removed the mixed h_r from Callaecia and Cantabria - no longer camps.
• Adjustments to Royal Clan buildings for Saka/Sauromatae/Parthia - no longer lose factional units in their homeland.
• Parthian Allied/Royal clans now build-able only in camps - same as the other two nomadic faction's pre-reform governments.
• Lowered settlement requirement for numidia4/numidia5 to town/large_town respectively.
• Iberian Client changed to a cavalry unit.
• Latest scripts hotfix with BAI update.

I know it's only been a day, but these are some material changes. Especially the first one, they now feel about right to me. Also bundled in z3n's latest update.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.08c:

• Revision of infrastructure in many larger settlements.
• Second tier of Allied Government size requirement downgraded to city.
• Parthian Allied/Royal clan requirements reverted to original format (ie build-able anywhere).
• Update to Sauromatian factional pools - more reflective of their position as the western steppe faction.
• Expansion to post-reform Parthian pools.
• Correction of faulty Baktrian (and some Seleukid) government pre-reqs on infrastructure.
• Expansion of Bosporan Helleno-Nomadic Satrapy to include Skythiapolis and Paniardis. Removal of camp-conversion from that building - it's an end state not part of a transition to Hellenism.
• New unit for Leusitane: Elite Swordsmen. Added ap to Leusitane elite cavalry swords.
• Additional trigger added to Polybian reform - take Cisalpine Gaul and Sicily, and reforms will happen after turn 170.

Recommendations for factions to test: Parthia, Sauromatae, Seleukids, Baktria.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.08d:

• Corrected my overly convoluted requirements for Bosporan Helleno-Nomadic Satrapy - now works.
• Turn trigger for Polybian Reform reduced to after turn 120.
• Siege AI update and change to siege mechanics.
• Campaign AI usage of missile units should be reduced.

[QuintusSertorius]

Changelist for 2.08e:

• Corrected erroneous appearances of Italic client ruler.
• Revised Allied Government placement of Leves in Italy.
• Added Persian Archers to Persis and nearby in Native Admin pools. Hyrkanian Hillmen added to Hyrkania in Native Admin pools.
• Added Felsina to Polybian fallback script.
• Adjustment to the Baktrian/Seleukid Satrapy of the Empire - light cavalry added to local pool. Removed some redundant pools.
• Added morale impact of general's experience back into EDCT.
• New rel_i icon for the settlement summary screen.

[Vermin]

Thankyou for all your work on this. You are so prolific that any playtesting I do is obsolete before I can get more than a few turns! Mind you - I like to stop and eat the roses!
Regards
Vermin

[arinbjorn]

Not sure whether this is by design or a bug, but playing as Baktra I can recruit Indian units from native military settlement in Sugd (Sogdiane) which seems a bit a far-stretched.

[QuintusSertorius]

Not sure whether this is by design or a bug, but playing as Baktra I can recruit Indian units from native military settlement in Sugd (Sogdiane) which seems a bit a far-stretched.

By design. The building is native and neighbouring settlers, you'll notice a lot of them in the region have Iranians.

[Vermin]

I'm guessing this is the right thread for EB2.1b BAI feedback:
The open battle AI is soooo much better. No longer too passive. The siege (defensive) AI seems unreactive - but at least makes more use of the city centre in initial deployment to ensure a bloody last stand. Also now usually place archers on the walls instead of the centre. Without the 3 minute control timer it is also more difficult to clear away the last of the garrison which are lining the walls still. At least this mean you have to kill or rout every defender now which is good.

[QuintusSertorius]

I'm guessing this is the right thread for EB2.1b BAI feedback:
The open battle AI is soooo much better. No longer too passive. The siege (defensive) AI seems unreactive - but at least makes more use of the city centre in initial deployment to ensure a bloody last stand. Also now usually place archers on the walls instead of the centre. Without the 3 minute control timer it is also more difficult to clear away the last of the garrison which are lining the walls still. At least this mean you have to kill or rout every defender now which is good.

Um, this is the old thread for the testing build. The new release is a stickied thread at the top of the forum.