This is going to start reach backroom levels pretty soon...

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They dont bash the fasion industry as much as gaming because thier tactics can't work on the fasion industry.
You don't see them bash the fashion industry because you don't read the magazines that does that. Let me put it this way: GG was the noise level needed to hit national news.

What level do you think are needed to get legislators involved? (The answer is dead models btw) That's not including regularly occurring call outs for less skinny models. Here's one about racism as well.

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The gaming press allows does not have much self or outside regulation that the mainstream press has and thus the worst of collusion and coercion methods are frequently allowed to be used.
And this is pure bullshit.

A.) You have stuff like Fox News.
B.) Grayblades is refering to that some of the more active gaming magazines made a coop piece against the harassment in the early stages of GG. This is the "collusion" (also known as email).
There were also some reporters that didn't disclose that they were friendly with some indie developers.

That is all. There's a crap ton of dubious stuff in video game media, but when talking about GG and its after-march and SJW, its only about this.

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In the mainstream press the bully tactics used in the name of social justice are impossible due to regulation and without the ability to decieve or bully thier ability to affect something as established as the fasion industry is limited.
By having magazines and writing articles?

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Bottom line: the fasion industry is too large to be undermined by a mere political subculture without the lever of bully tactics and too experienced with censorship to cave into pressure, so like every other petty interest group social justice is either ignored or outright mocked by the fasion industry.
I'm curious with what you call bully tactics. Making your voice heard when wanting to have a change is a necessity.

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Gaming was pushed because it was seen as an easy target to convert. They were only partially right and when their corrpution and bullying became apparant it triggered a consumer revolt.
Gaming was pushed because people are interested in these issues and gaming. I mean, the media involved are in several cases fairly old. It's certainly not a secret cabal running around planning it, like you imply with that statement.

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Do we have proof the publishers did that beyond the creator's word? I'm afraid that these days I find it hard to automatically believe every accusation of sexism I hear from the mouths of mediocre game makers.
Not by itself. It is confirmed that female protagonists are vastly less common than male ones. Games with female protagonists are also in general getting less promotion from the gaming companies. Basically, it would not be surprising.