Shogun Total War coming to Steam!

[Goalum]

It did create a massive boost for the TW platform though by going so commercial.

Yes, it did.. however the "old crowd" didn't like that very much.. the first two games aren't exactly mainstream products, and so they didn't attract exactly a mainstream audience..

There was a massive shift in community demographics and a lot of bitteness between the old and new guards of fans at the time.. you can see that in plenty old threads of that era..

[edyzmedieval]

I was around during that era to be honest - since I joined in 2005, RTW was in full swing / love and there was quite a marked difference between old schoolers and new schoolers. Things quieted down significantly with M2TW but the schism as you mentioned it was there.

That being said - MTW is my favourite game of all time.

[Goalum]

I was around during that era to be honest - since I joined in 2005, RTW was in full swing / love and there was quite a marked difference between old schoolers and new schoolers. Things quieted down significantly with M2TW but the schism as you mentioned it was there.

That being said - MTW is my favourite game of all time.

Was reading a few threads the other day about RTW2 and Attila in the TWC and, actually another schism has already happened between those that prefer the 2nd incarnation of the TW engine to the later games [Empire and afterwards that share more traits/features]

Its really funny because its the same post type of the old timers against those that prefer the newer games..

I also got the distinct impression that their content manager over there Welsh Dragon, the way he posted pro RTW2 and Attila may actually be a CA employee of some sort.. posing for a fan so as his arguments to be heard more - typical tactics companies and other organisations employ..

We had a few -in the late RTW early M2TW days- of those quasi CA employees or - who knows, perhaps actual CA employees..

At some point an mp player Jason Palamedes was actually employed as QA/tester for the battle aspect of the game, he was posting around here too..

[edyzmedieval]

There is a significant difference because people really loved RTW and M2TW, and those who started with ETW didn't like it that much. I personally loved Napoleon TW instead, and found it a great game, but not everyone shares this opinion and the problems with R2TW made it worse.

[Goalum]

There is a significant difference because people really loved RTW and M2TW, and those who started with ETW didn't like it that much. I personally loved Napoleon TW instead, and found it a great game, but not everyone shares this opinion and the problems with R2TW made it worse.

I really liked Shogun 2 relative to RTW and M2, it was much better.

I also really like R2 especially now - its very much better than RTW and M2tw - both in the campaign and the battles as far as i am concerned.

Great game for SP, Attila too.

Funnily enough, it had many suggestions that we were proposing in the STW and MTW forums here all these years.. Caravel and i and others [tosa, puzz3d, econ21 plenty of others] had written some epic suggestion posts, and it seems someone was reading.. that's good.. although i haven't received my share of the royalties yet..must be the royal post again

[Xantan]

Most companies do trawl through the forums because the gamers come up with some excellent ideas.

[Goalum]

Most companies do trawl through the forums because the gamers come up with some excellent ideas.

Yeah, i should have never posted all that before talking to my lawyer