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    I had problems getting my mom to buy me plastic swords...

    This is so unfair.
    If it makes you feel better, I am not allowed to take my cannon

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    I sense a social reflex at work here, where the Police saw "WWII Tank" and decided he was probably a Nazi, and having no Nazi paraphernalia in his secret lair they had to take the tank to save face.
    "If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    I sense a social reflex at work here, where the Police saw "WWII Tank" and decided he was probably a Nazi, and having no Nazi paraphernalia in his secret lair they had to take the tank to save face.
    I think it is worrying that you see Nazi connections everywhere.
    It reminds me of the Nazis, who saw jewish conspiracies in everything.


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    I think it is worrying that you see Nazi connections everywhere.
    It reminds me of the Nazis, who saw jewish conspiracies in everything.
    Wait... this is a joke, isn't it? You're making fun of the fact that Germans see Nazi's everywhere. Have we finally cracked your sense of humour?
    "If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Wait... this is a joke, isn't it? You're making fun of the fact that Germans see Nazi's everywhere. Have we finally cracked your sense of humour?
    You're almost there, the first sentence is somewhat serious and the second is a joke in the sense that I worry about you thinking of nazis all the time and then do it myself in the next sentence. Inconsistency by design.

    The point is that I think you overdo the nazi ideas a bit. I noticed it at first with all the Putin-Hitler comparisons and now you claim that every german is somehow still incredibly scared of nazi accusations. Of course it is possible that you are right (in both cases), I just don't think the chances are big. It is simply against the law to have weapons for war at home if they are not de-militarized and maybe they thought now that he is aware we are onto him, he might go on a rampage with a tank unless we take it away right now. It's hard to tell, but you were still the first who thought it has to have something to do with Nazis.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    You're almost there, the first sentence is somewhat serious and the second is a joke in the sense that I worry about you thinking of nazis all the time and then do it myself in the next sentence. Inconsistency by design.
    OK, well I got it, because I realised there was an actual point to the first sentence.

    The point is that I think you overdo the nazi ideas a bit. I noticed it at first with all the Putin-Hitler comparisons and now you claim that every german is somehow still incredibly scared of nazi accusations. Of course it is possible that you are right (in both cases), I just don't think the chances are big. It is simply against the law to have weapons for war at home if they are not de-militarized and maybe they thought now that he is aware we are onto him, he might go on a rampage with a tank unless we take it away right now. It's hard to tell, but you were still the first who thought it has to have something to do with Nazis. [/QUOTE]

    This bit - well I don't think Putin is a Nazi, I think he's a Fascist - and that's not the same at all. When I say that Putin is a Fascist I'm not saying he wants to kill all the Jews so his country can be free, I'm saying he ascribes to Fascist political viewpoint - something I have actually discussed at length re his inner cirle and their control of private enterprise, and the creation of a new pseudo-historical identity.

    Same goes for Turkey's current President, btw, although he's not been this sucessful.

    Back to the case in hand - the gentleman's lawyer said everything we de-ac and he had the paperwork to prove it. So what you're saying is that in GERMANY they couldn't find the de-ac paperwork? I am sceptical, but I know that many of my parents generation in Germany still think that German WWII Army = Nazi.

    Hence my conclusion, and I doubt I was the first to think it - just the first to say it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post

    This bit - well I don't think Putin is a Nazi, I think he's a Fascist - and that's not the same at all. When I say that Putin is a Fascist I'm not saying he wants to kill all the Jews so his country can be free, I'm saying he ascribes to Fascist political viewpoint - something I have actually discussed at length re his inner cirle and their control of private enterprise, and the creation of a new pseudo-historical identity.
    In fact, he (through the media the Kremlin controls - http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...europe-america) encourages hatred of Americans, EU (Gayrope, as they often term it in Russia), Ukrainians, Georgians, Baltic nations (all of whom are thought to be blindly following the lead of the first two; plus Ukrainians are traitors). Promoting hatred of other nations is nazism, no?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    If it makes you feel better, I am not allowed to take my cannon
    It doesn't. I couldn't get anything that resembled a weapon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    It doesn't. I couldn't get anything that resembled a weapon.

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    I'm not so sure whether the nazi background was an issue. Might be.

    The thing is apparently off-media now, at least off my media radar, but I've got the impression that someone higher-up than the mayor got wind of "weapons! tank! gun! omg!" or smth like that and felt compelled to act immediately for fear of ... idk.

    To me, it's just good old german "Aktionismus" (no literal translation found: it's basically 'doing things for the sake of doing things' or in this case: 'be seen doing things').

    I would really like to see some more pictures of his equipment, the 8.8 looked pretty well preserved too. And of course I'd be interested in the history of this equipment. Where he'd got it etc.

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    He could've made a fortune if he used the exterior designs of his old guns for airsoft guns that he could've sold.
    Wooooo!!!

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    Found an english article: http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-news-f...where-33381772

    Basically what it says in our media, except for the suspected connection to "stolen nazi art". I wonder if they got that correctly, or if it should read "art stolen by nazis". There has been an affair a while ago involving an elderly hoarder of european art stolen during ww2.

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