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    Your opinions and perspectives have only become more nuanced and thought out over time.
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    From my perspective, Louis was more or less a victim of Banquos Ghost (BQ henceforth).

    BQ handled the backroom in a VERY self centered way, throwing out warnings left and right if something didn't suit him, and letting things pass that suited him.

    Louis was a free thinker and always challenging his surroundings, and we loved him for it. Heck, I loved him for it, eventhough we often argued.

    It came to a point where the Backroom more or less rebelled against BQ, unfortunately, Louis posts became the battleground.

    It was just SO DAMN OBVIOUS that the mod played with hidden cards, unfortunately louis posts were used to highlight it, and the forum at large had to step in to quench it...

    And that's why it turned to **** and we lost one of our best posters.

    I miss Louis a lot, even to this day. He was just collateral damage in the war against BQ.

    For me as a person I much prefer the forum post BQ though... I think BQ gave me as many warnings a month as I have gotten since BQ got pushed away... Some several years ago. The Backroom modertaion is actually the last years the best moderation I have seen on any internet forum I have ever been to.. So cheers for that!!

    But yeah... A Backroom with todays mods AND Louis would of course have been the best. And honestly speaking, it WAS rather pettty of him to just quit... I would cry for him, but real men don't.




    EDIT: Those who have only been here for 10 years are still newcomers in my eyes :p


    EDIT2: sorry for grammar and spelling, I am out on the countryside with a laptop from the time when vampires didn't glitter in the sun
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    Ah, the 10 year club. Do we count as the Old Guard of the Org now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    From my perspective, Louis was more or less a victim of Banquos Ghost (BQ henceforth).

    BQ handled the backroom in a VERY self centered way, throwing out warnings left and right if something didn't suit him, and letting things pass that suited him.

    Louis was a free thinker and always challenging his surroundings, and we loved him for it. Heck, I loved him for it, eventhough we often argued.

    It came to a point where the Backroom more or less rebelled against BQ, unfortunately, Louis posts became the battleground.

    It was just SO DAMN OBVIOUS that the mod played with hidden cards, unfortunately louis posts were used to highlight it, and the forum at large had to step in to quench it...

    And that's why it turned to **** and we lost one of our best posters.

    I miss Louis a lot, even to this day. He was just collateral damage in the war against BQ.

    For me as a person I much prefer the forum post BQ though... I think BQ gave me as many warnings a month as I have gotten since BQ got pushed away... Some several years ago. The Backroom modertaion is actually the last years the best moderation I have seen on any internet forum I have ever been to.. So cheers for that!!

    But yeah... A Backroom with todays mods AND Louis would of course have been the best. And honestly speaking, it WAS rather pettty of him to just quit... I would cry for him, but real men don't.




    EDIT: Those who have only been here for 10 years are still newcomers in my eyes :p


    EDIT2: sorry for grammar and spelling, I am out on the countryside with a laptop from the time when vampires didn't glitter in the sun
    Bit too harsh on BG, he just liked good behaviour. when I got a warning I already knew I had gone too far and that it would be comming very soon. I like the loose style of the current moderators though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV View Post
    From my perspective, Louis was more or less a victim of Banquos Ghost (BQ henceforth).

    BQ handled the backroom in a VERY self centered way, throwing out warnings left and right if something didn't suit him, and letting things pass that suited him.

    Louis was a free thinker and always challenging his surroundings, and we loved him for it. Heck, I loved him for it, eventhough we often argued.

    It came to a point where the Backroom more or less rebelled against BQ, unfortunately, Louis posts became the battleground.

    It was just SO DAMN OBVIOUS that the mod played with hidden cards, unfortunately louis posts were used to highlight it, and the forum at large had to step in to quench it...

    And that's why it turned to **** and we lost one of our best posters.

    I miss Louis a lot, even to this day. He was just collateral damage in the war against BQ.

    For me as a person I much prefer the forum post BQ though... I think BQ gave me as many warnings a month as I have gotten since BQ got pushed away... Some several years ago. The Backroom modertaion is actually the last years the best moderation I have seen on any internet forum I have ever been to.. So cheers for that!!

    But yeah... A Backroom with todays mods AND Louis would of course have been the best. And honestly speaking, it WAS rather pettty of him to just quit... I would cry for him, but real men don't.




    EDIT: Those who have only been here for 10 years are still newcomers in my eyes :p


    EDIT2: sorry for grammar and spelling, I am out on the countryside with a laptop from the time when vampires didn't glitter in the sun

    Eh, I don't remember it like that. For one thing, Loius went into self-imposed exiled after he crossed the line whilst being a moderator. As I recall, and it's been a few years, all that was done to Loius was that he was stripped of his mod title - then he left.

    I also don't remember Banquo being "Forced out", as I recall he'd retired at least once before the whole Loius thing kicked off and was basically dragged back into the Backroom because it'd became too rowdy. It's not fair to single out his moderating style, either, because it was the same as Kukri's or BKS' All the mods were harsh and they strictly enforced "gentlemanly" behaviour. In generally I would say the Backroom benefited from that, because it enforced a standard of debate and I have several times argued that things should be tighter than they currently are.

    As far as I'm concerned both Loius and Bonquo raised the debate and the atmosphere here, and I miss both of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Eh, I don't remember it like that. For one thing, Loius went into self-imposed exiled after he crossed the line whilst being a moderator. As I recall, and it's been a few years, all that was done to Loius was that he was stripped of his mod title - then he left.
    While I agree with you that Banquo did a fine job, I definitely don't agree that Louis crossed the line. It was a jest, there was no insulted party, only a certain member who was more of a troll at the time (and who shall remain unnamed in this instance) demanded strict and vigorous punishment out of spite and pettiness.

    If we had applied the rules that rigorously, we'd all be banned by now.

    Louis didn't leave because he was insulted, but because he didn't want to remain here if that was the standard. I maybe wouldn't have made the same choice, but in principle he was 100% right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    While I agree with you that Banquo did a fine job, I definitely don't agree that Louis crossed the line. It was a jest, there was no insulted party, only a certain member who was more of a troll at the time (and who shall remain unnamed in this instance) demanded strict and vigorous punishment out of spite and pettiness.

    If we had applied the rules that rigorously, we'd all be banned by now.

    Louis didn't leave because he was insulted, but because he didn't want to remain here if that was the standard. I maybe wouldn't have made the same choice, but in principle he was 100% right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Your discussion is on the first page of the Watchtower, isn't it?
    Don't know, haven't visited Watchtower in ages. Possibly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    While I agree with you that Banquo did a fine job, I definitely don't agree that Louis crossed the line. It was a jest, there was no insulted party, only a certain member who was more of a troll at the time (and who shall remain unnamed in this instance) demanded strict and vigorous punishment out of spite and pettiness.

    If we had applied the rules that rigorously, we'd all be banned by now.

    Louis didn't leave because he was insulted, but because he didn't want to remain here if that was the standard. I maybe wouldn't have made the same choice, but in principle he was 100% right.
    You know, I don't exactly remember what Loius said but I remember it made me feel a little ill. It was bad enough that I thought it demonstrated he shouldn't be a mod, but far from being ban-worthy.

    I think Kad's recollection is clouded by who he was at the time, to be honest, I got several warning from Banquo and Kad probably thinks I was one of his favourites.

    I was just terrified of him the way I was my headmaster.
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    Getting really curious now, wtf happened can I get a discrete summary. I never understood why Louis suddenly stopped posting, I never noticed anything wrong between anyone. Me and Tribes perhaps and I really regret how that turned out, but that's about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    You know, I don't exactly remember what Loius said but I remember it made me feel a little ill. It was bad enough that I thought it demonstrated he shouldn't be a mod, but far from being ban-worthy.
    We have some rules, so I cannot go into full details, but I will clear something up.

    Louis was not banned from the Org, his choice to leave was his free will and isn't/hasn't been barred from coming back at anytime.
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    The Marquis de Sade terrified people. Brilliant guy. I wouldn't give Louis the same credits but those who have no sense of humour and can't sense what should be pefectly obvious and harmless sarcasm all the less aren't getting any regardless. I miss AdrianII as well, sarcasm wasn't his thing but he sure was good at being arrogant, and that isn't in any way an insult, just an acknowledgement of decorum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
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