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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    We clearly remain as intractable as we were 3 years ago. Lucky for most of you I am paitent man.
    Out of curiosity, what do you hope can be achieved and what do you think there is to make this so?

    Unfortunateness of Louis going missing is that it is self-exile, and we cannot force him to return. There is no place for a hatchet to go, other than to be buried.
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    I like a good roll in the mud. It's part of my winning personality. Louis was my best internet friend, I'm nothing if not loyal.

    not to mention the level of discourse has plummeted and the banter is at an all time low. Need to spice things up.

    i was perfectly happy celebrating a decade here with a tacit nod to an all old friend. I did not bring up the incident but I will not stand by and let history be rewritten
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    I like a good roll in the mud. It's part of my winning personality. Louis was my best internet friend, I'm nothing if not loyal.

    not to mention the level of discourse has plummeted and the banter is at an all time low. Need to spice things up.

    i was perfectly happy celebrating a decade here with a tacit nod to an all old friend. I did not bring up the incident but I will not stand by and let history be rewritten
    What history is being rewritten and why can you not stay in contact with Louis?
    Even if he does not want to come back here, there are other ways to stay in contact.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    The only detail omitted is that a rather big part of the .Org staff (mostly those not involved in the backroom) were just waiting for an opportunity and ACIN delivered it to them on a silver platter. Louis and Banquo left and Adrian followed suit after learning the reasons of their decision.
    Oh, there it is, rewriting history.
    Banquo decided to leave IIRC, it made me very sad.
    So what were the reasons of their decision? I am almost sure that Louis told some members his side of the story, but I can only guess what exactly that was as they don't seem to want to disclose any of it either....
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    I just discovered I was erroneous in some of my views, so some of my previous posts were inaccurate. Apologies for that and removing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Oh, there it is, rewriting history.
    Banquo decided to leave IIRC, it made me very sad.
    So what were the reasons of their decision? I am almost sure that Louis told some members his side of the story, but I can only guess what exactly that was as they don't seem to want to disclose any of it either....
    Why should it be disclosed? I can respect privacy, too.

    On the other hand, you know perfectly well what transpired. You were a moderator back then and had access to private moderator forum.

    "A muslim fag" was just a convenient excuse. We've left far worse things go unpunished. Could have Louis acted differently? Possibly, but then he wouldn't be Louis. And it wasn't just him. Adrian and Banquo, too. Those three were definitely amongst our most intelligent posters. I'm sure you remember those days, back when we used to discuss different things around here, before it deteriorated to 94th version of "why muslims suck" and "gunbortion" 97th version.

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    On the other hand, you know perfectly well what transpired. You were a moderator back then and had access to private moderator forum
    I am going to clear something up. Moderators wouldn't have known what transpired as it was an administration decision which they are not privy to. They only know that Louis was de-greened and put 1+1 together, something that I did myself and so did the rest of the board. I only discovered last night the administration decision behind the action, but the only way to know what was said for sure is to break in a Louis and Ser Clegane's accounts to read PMs to confirm it. This is an action I don't find suitable nor I am willing to make.

    The reasons Louis left are private to himself. For some people, Louis-gate is enough of a reason, the idea the Frenchman wouldn't lie low, waving his flag in a foolish, but heroic manner, before being struck down. It has that romantic appeal. But I can assure everyone there is no conspiracy, there was no 'backstabbing' and the reasons Louis left are unrelated to BQ.

    If you have specific concerns, feel free to message me and I will address them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Why should it be disclosed? I can respect privacy, too.
    Didn't you ask us to make the Keep threads public? It's a bit like asking to make someone's PMs public.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    On the other hand, you know perfectly well what transpired. You were a moderator back then and had access to private moderator forum.
    I would like to know what you think transpired because I have a suspicion that what you think is not what I know about.
    Or maybe just see below.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    "A muslim fag" was just a convenient excuse. We've left far worse things go unpunished. Could have Louis acted differently? Possibly, but then he wouldn't be Louis.
    As Beskar said, I do not know for sure what ultimately led to the decision to demote Louis, but I have a very strong suspicion that the things the trolls were concerned about were a minor reason at best and not really sufficient to reach such a decision. What I can perhaps tell you is that the vast majority of Moderators who disagreed with Louis' public statements did NOT want to see him demoted for those comments. A correction, perhaps even an apology, yes, but a demotion was NOT wanted. That it came to be one anyway was most likely because of Louis' reaction(s) to the whole affair but I cannot know this for sure either.


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