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[Ishmael]

Did you really have to respond so quickly GH? My typing fingers are about to fall off! At any rate, this will have to be my last response for a little while, although I should be able to get in again sometime tonight.

So why did you vote for lubber then?

I might not have been clear enough here. My vote was not random in the sense that it was picked from an RNG. Rather, I picked 'at random' somebody who I could justify a vote for with more than just "vote: x, because random," which happened to be landlubber. Hence, pseudo-random.

Part 1 of this statement: "I didn't find you suspicious".
Part 2 of this statement: "Your posting style was in line with what I perceived to be extremely dangerous mafia behavior and I decided to keep an eye on you".
Part 3 of this statement: "I don't necessarily consider the posting style that I just talked about to be suspicious.

I think this might once again be a point of communication. Part 1 of the statement, as you put it, is not "I didn't find you suspicious," (which is equivalent to "I found you to not be suspicious") but rather "I didn't find you to be actively suspicious" (in response to the suggestion that I did find you actively suspicious, and therefore being equivalent to saying "I have a neutral read on you"). Part 2 was intended to be read as "your posting style was in line with what I perceived to be extremely dangerous behavior if you were mafia and I decided to keep an eye on you," which obviously changes the tone of the statement. Part 3 is consistent with my intent.

Semantics, I know, but I think it's important here.

The difference here is you left yourself way too much of an out. And it's not an isolated case either, it's a recurring pattern as khaan has brought up earlier on.

I obviously disagree with this interpretation. In all my posts this game I have stated my opinions of people as they stand. I'm not going to pretend certainty on a read when it's only tentative, and I'm not going to hedge my bets when I am truly confident about someone.

Witness, for example, my posts in D3. In the evening my time I observe that I don't find 'khaan to be the most scummy person around. The next morning, after rereading the thread, I change my mind and label him the most scummy. That doesn't square with your accusation that I've been 'leaving myself a way out' in an effort to maintain consistency.

I'm going to pose the same question I posed to landlubber earlier: If you truly believe that khaan is scum and not just your get-out-of-jail free card, who is his partner? You've been dancing around the idea that it's me but you haven't fully committed yet one way or the other, once again falling into the pattern as described above.

I think it is highly probable that if 'khaan is scum, you are his partner. Furthermore, I believe that it is a moot point if you aren't, since in that case the mafia are guaranteed a win.

You keep bringing up this post. You're waving it around like a flag in a desperate attempt to call attention to it despite the fact that so much has passed it by. Do you honestly think that somebody like me makes a post like that, knowing that we're in the endgame, at the very start of a phase and there's not a reason behind it? Nothing I ever do in these games is without reason or merit.

From memory I think I've brought it up twice, and addressing different parts of the post each time. With that said my comment in question was somewhat tongue in cheek. I was considering using the emoticon to make that more clear, but I've been trying to cut back on it.

There's getting involved in arguments, and then there's getting involved. It's extremely easy to make a post or two to comment on the situation and then call it a day. I've done that a lot in the past. It's far harder, as scum, to take the next step and really get your hands dirty, because of the inherent risks involved.

I made my thoughts on the situation known in each case. I must admit it's not my first instinct to go barging into an ongoing debate - that's probably something I should work on when playing Mafia.


Okay, that's me done for now. As I say, I'll try to be back sometime later this evening.