IMMIGRATION thread

[Beskar]

"Oh God, please let me live through this."
Saying you'd never be that person is exactly like a Christian saying he'll never have a crisis of faith.

That is because people want magical solutions to a problem. Because they feel out of their depth, would be great for magic man to come down and make things right.

But he won't, because he cannot, because there is no magic man, only the harsh reality.

Nothing wrong with hoping and wishing for such things, but unfortunately, it is not the reality we live in.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

That is because people want magical solutions to a problem. Because they feel out of their depth, would be great for magic man to come down and make things right.

But he won't, because he cannot, because there is no magic man, only the harsh reality.

Nothing wrong with hoping and wishing for such things, but unfortunately, it is not the reality we live in.

Yeah, I'd like to see you say that under your breath when someone's holding you at gunpoint.

People are what people are winging about it is infinitely more childish than any belief in a "magic man".

People believe in all sorts of stupid things, like multiculturalism or communism.

[Montmorency]

"Oh God, please let me live through this."

Most atheists - indeed most Westerners in general - would admit to reacting like this even from mild inconvenience, such as a difficult commute.

It is no more significant than a Jew using "Jesus Christ!" as an interjection.

[Greyblades]

They say there are no athiests in foxholes because few men are unwilling to try anything to survive a world erupting around them.

In extreme stress a human being will cling to any small hope of survival, regardless of thier belief under ordinary circumstances, and what is god but hope?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Most atheists - indeed most Westerners in general - would admit to reacting like this even from mild inconvenience, such as a difficult commute.

It is no more significant than a Jew using "Jesus Christ!" as an interjection.

Never heard of a Jew saying "Jesus Christ" any more than a Muslim.

This brings us to the topic of Christian atheists vs Jewish atheists vs lapsed Catholics.

[Montmorency]

Never heard of a Jew saying "Jesus Christ" any more than a Muslim.

I have Americans of any religious or non-religious orientation use "Jesus Christ!" or "For Christ's sake!" Most of those who don't seem in fact to be those Christians who still get worked up over "taking the Lord's name in vain".

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

America is a strange place that makes no sense.

[Papewaio]

Yeah, I'd like to see you say that under your breath when someone's holding you at gunpoint.

People are what people are winging about it is infinitely more childish than any belief in a "magic man".

People believe in all sorts of stupid things, like multiculturalism or communism.

I can point to multiculturalist countries, I cannot point to any proof in any God.

Believing in the Chrisitian God is the same as believing in Thor, faeries at the bottom of the garden, Unicorns, Luke Skywalker, Cpt Kirk. Just because people want something doesn't make it true. Believing in something under duress is about as honest as signing a contract under the same conditions: invalid.

It is up to the believers to show concrete repeatable proof in the fae.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I didn't say it proved God existed - I just said that it's not unreasonable to say "There are no Atheist in Foxholes" at least whilst under fire.

I can't point to a single Multiculturalist countries, I can point to countries that host multiple cultures but in every case the boundaries between cultures produce friction - in a Multi-Cultural society they wouldn't.

Me - I'm not saying Unicorns and Fairies don't or didn't exist - although down here we call them Piskies.

You can't trust them.

[Papewaio]

Multicultural societies exist in the world. I didn't add a condition that it has to be thriving.

Otherwise you would have to say no totalitarian or facist or communist countries exist because they aren't the best ones either.