IMMIGRATION thread

[Greyblades]

Watch yourselves Gentlemen. That video about the people who had their houses raided came too close to advocating the works of a Holocaust denier for comfort so I decided to delete it from this thread. In the future, refrain from posting such things.

You might want to update the FAQ, for I was under the impression that "Any subject is open for discussion in the Backroom"

The main reason I come here and not elsewhere is because we are allowed to discuss political issue without being interfered by mods using thier powers to suppress a political viewpoint. The deletion is an extreme overreaction and if this is a sign of a change in the way this board is moderated then I will lose my main reason to stay.

[Gilrandir]

I will lose my main reason to stay.

Somehow the British are repeating themselves. After Bexit we will witness Greyblaxit?

[Fragony]

Kinda torn on it, should be some limits, you can have a nazi-forum in no-time, if someone really feels the need to deny the holocaust it belongs in the monestary I think. How it's treated if someone does here.

[Greyblades]

Cut out a man's tounge you do not prove him wrong, you prove you are scared of what he has to say.

Principle aside this was an overreaction, a 5 second reference by a noted crazy in an 100 minute interview with said crazy does not make it a video promoting holocaust denial and deleting it is the same type of kneejerk overreaction by local authority that I posted the video to criticize.

Somehow the British are repeating themselves. After Bexit we will witness Greyblaxit?

The British and thier offshoots have come to abhor bowing to the interests of unelected officials in foreign countries, I'd think you'd be more sympathetic considering your nation's recent history.

[Gilrandir]

The British and thier offshoots have come to abhor bowing to the interests of unelected officials in foreign countries, I'd think you'd be more sympathetic considering your nation's recent history.

What about the elected officials? Is it not that abhorrent to bow to such?

Generally, you are overestimating your fellow countrymen. They did and do a lot of nasty things which you deem contrary to their national character.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/b...-stole....html

[Greyblades]

Apparantly a nation's character needs 100% adheirance to count now.

It's wierd seeing a man who spends years railing against Putin make such a 180 when it comes to the european commission.

[Gilrandir]

Apparantly a nation's character needs 100% adheirance to count now.

I strongly object to overgeneralizations of the kind "the British abhor ..." or "the British like ...". Even people in one apartment block have diverse opinions and preferences to say nothing of the whole nation where one can always find those who go against the general trend and still consider themselves belonging to the nation. How can you deduce that "the Britsh abhor bowing to the interests of unelected officials in foreign countries" seeing the results of the Brexit referendum? Are those 46.6% not British? Or are they wrong British?

And I object even more to attempts to squeeze such vague notions as national character into rigid figures or gauge the adherence to it by percentage.

It's wierd seeing a man who spends years railing against Putin make such a 180 when it comes to the european commission.

Did the European commission annex Wales and invade the Highlands? Does the European commission support the Scottish separatists with money and weapons? When you compare Putin to the European commission you know nothing, Jon Snow.

[Hooahguy]

You might want to update the FAQ, for I was under the impression that "Any subject is open for discussion in the Backroom"

The main reason I come here and not elsewhere is because we are allowed to discuss political issue without being interfered by mods using thier powers to suppress a political viewpoint. The deletion is an extreme overreaction and if this is a sign of a change in the way this board is moderated then I will lose my main reason to stay.

As moderator I felt it better to delete the video to stay on the safe side. Overreaction on my part? Perhaps, but you have also been here long enough to know this is a rare occurrence so I feel you might be overreacting as well.

[Greyblades]

As moderator I felt it better to delete the video to stay on the safe side.

Safe side of what? What rule does it break?

[Fragony]

Don't see it either but it isn't a democracy here, we were at a dead end (olol) anyway. Thread can as well be closed.

[Husar]

Safe side of what? What rule does it break?

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One could say that a holocaust denial is usually inaccurate, hateful and used to harass people, it is also against a law.
And as if that weren't enough, it is an insult addressed to a group that is very inflammatory.

Whether you see it that way or not, moderators have often deleted certain inflammatory content to prevent fights and to be on the safe side.

[Fragony]

One could say that a holocaust denial is usually inaccurate, hateful and used to harass people, it is also against a law.
And as if that weren't enough, it is an insult addressed to a group that is very inflammatory.

Whether you see it that way or not, moderators have often deleted certain inflammatory content to prevent fights and to be on the safe side.

That wasn't in the link though. It was a closed facebook-account for nazi-sympathisers. Why would want to I don't know, but you can sack the houses of just about all aristocracy in Europe if you insist.

[Husar]

That wasn't in the link though. It was a closed facebook-account for nazi-sympathisers. Why would want to I don't know, but you can sack the houses of just about all aristocracy in Europe if you insist.

Why do I get the feeling that there was more than one link?

[Legs]

Why do I get the feeling that there was more than one link?

Tricky one eh.
Why is there the impression that there must be two links.
Is it because people are denying the actual content of the one link that was posted therefore the logical explaination to make those denials true would be that there must have really been two videos which have both been deleted.

I am sure the moderator who deleted the single link because of its contents can clarify that it was one link and that it contained the little details which some are still claiming were not present, he could probably also clear it up by referencing the times of each detail which people deny are present in the interview, sort of like 9:20, 10:30 , 43:10, 54:30 kind of thing

[Fragony]

Why do I get the feeling that there was more than one link?

That thought is creeping up on me as well. The link I saw was an interview with a guy who's house was raided, he wouldn't be in such a facebook group if he wasn't a nazi-symphatiser but I saw no holocaust denial whatsoever, just a description of the raid. As for threats, the guys in black iron bars are antifa, you are German you know who they are. We have them here as well but not nearly as violent as in Germany, more like hobbyists

In any case, holocaust denial is illegal in Germany (which I find stupid), but glorifying nazis is not

[Legs]

That wasn't in the link though. It was a closed facebook-account for nazi-sympathisers. Why would want to I don't know, but you can sack the houses of just about all aristocracy in Europe if you insist.

How on earth could you know that, you said the interview was only 10 minutes long, so obviously you are comletely unaware of its contents

[Hooahguy]

In the video in question there was a speaker who was advocating that listeners read the works of a known Holocaust denier. While it wasnt outright Holocaust denial, I felt it best to delete it not just because of the topic but because the video was causing a lot of tensions here. Although it seems like it didnt do any good.

[Gilrandir]

Safe side of what?

Safe side of the force.