IMMIGRATION thread

[Leet Eriksson]

And it was? You could at least have given the #postcount, this is 192.


Or was it when you said OTHER countries should take their responsibility to accept Africans and Arabs?

What if they don't want to wreck their home nations?

I mean... If Poland HATE the idea of immigrants from Africa/Middle East, we can't exactly FORCE them to accept them...

Specially when we see what has happened to the nations who has accepted them...

Look at Sweden we LEAD the mass immigration league...

And now we have:
* Schools that are a joke.
* Swedish girls being mass/assault raped left and right.
* No housing even for our own.
* Mass unemployment.
* A wrecked wellfare system.
* Wrecked national infrastructure.
* Wrecked general security.

55 zones the police gave up on as the Africans and Arabs have taken them over to an extent where the police can not guarantee normal functions of society to work...





And your answer is to tell Poland and others to do what we have done?

Sorry mate, they are smarter than you.

Oh my a hot load of BS:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...nogo-zone-myth

Edit: Whats even more laughable is the idea of a minority of like literally single number percentile wresting control of Europe, the very Europe with advanced economies, functional democracies, powerful militaries and influence, from the majority.

[Kadagar_AV]

If your Swedish culture is this lazy nowadays, it's not surprising that your country is doing so bad.

You come to a thread, half of which you haven't read, play the clever guy and throw around completely baseless insults because you're to lazy to check the validity of what you say even within this thread.

You seem like an economic refugee in this thread, we should send you back to where you came from.

Maybe you missed my edit? And you still just bitch and moan.

Oh my a hot load of BS:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...nogo-zone-myth

Yeah, you have no idea what you talk about.

There ARE 55 zones in Sweden, according to the Swedish police in their last report, where they can no longer guarantee the basic security.

IE, ambulances need police escort to go in, open shootings on the streets, hand grenades flying left and right... I mean, one part of Sweden have had 9 or 10 hand grenade bombings just this last few weeks..

Only yesterday we had stone throwing (massive) at policemen in the same area where they also tried to burn down a police department, and also set of an explosive next to a police car with police in it... This simultaneously....


You talk out of your behind.

[Leet Eriksson]

Maybe you missed my edit? And you still just bitch and moan.





Yeah, you have no idea what you talk about.

There ARE 55 zones in Sweden, according to the Swedish police in their last report, where they can no longer guarantee the basic security.

IE, ambulances need police escort to go in, open shootings on the streets, hand grenades flying left and right... I mean, one part of Sweden have had 9 or 10 hand grenade bombings just this last few weeks..

Only yesterday we had stone throwing (massive) at policemen in the same area where they also tried to burn down a police department, and also set of an explosive next to a police car with police in it... This simultaneously....


You talk out of your behind.

I'm gonna have to go with the Journalistic Integrity of a major news publication over some dude on the internet, I'm sorry dude on the internet for your loss :(

[Kadagar_AV]

I'm gonna have to go with the Journalistic Integrity of a major news publication over some dude on the internet, I'm sorry dude on the internet for your loss :(

I thought you would know it already, were you Norwegian as you claim.

The source is the police themselves...

Article in English:

http://swedenreport.org/2015/05/18/p...nes-in-sweden/

Are you really this ideologically driven?

[Leet Eriksson]

I thought you would know it already, were you Norwegian as you claim.

The source is the police themselves...

Article in English:

http://swedenreport.org/2015/05/18/p...nes-in-sweden/

Are you really this ideologically driven?

A blog on the internet, versus a major journalistic publication, i wonder who to trust ... wait a minute.

[Husar]

I thought you would know it already, were you Norwegian as you claim.

The source is the police themselves...

Article in English:

http://swedenreport.org/2015/05/18/p...nes-in-sweden/

Are you really this ideologically driven?

That's a policing problem/badly implemented immigration/policing policy.
Might have something to do with Swedish people not being very welcoming as well.
http://www.swedensucks.com/antisocial-culture.html

[Kadagar_AV]

A blog on the internet, versus a major journalistic publication, i wonder who to trust ... wait a minute.

First thing I could find in English... It links you on to sources as well, so I don't see the problem.

The 55 zones where the police has lost control was an official report from the police, and it was run in most media here... Follow the links.

That's a policing problem/badly implemented immigration/policing policy.
Might have something to do with Swedish people not being very welcoming as well.
http://www.swedensucks.com/antisocial-culture.html

Yes, of course it's Swedens fault...

We just accept more than anyone else in Europe, we give them free apartments and money from the state if they dont get a job... They have free health and dental care, they get full education... We let them keep their religion and have free classes to learn Swedish...


OH THE HORROR!!!! I SEE IT NOW!!!

No wonder they are pissed at us and want revenge on the society that gave them shelter from a war.



That was the most absurd thing I have read yet on these boards... Sig worthy material, right there.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

A blog on the internet, versus a major journalistic publication, i wonder who to trust ... wait a minute.

Original Source - http://fof.se/tidning/2015/5/artikel...a-gangens-makt

According to Swedish Wikipedia it's a Scientific Journal published ten times a year run by a Non-Profit Organisation.

Admittedly I'm running this through Google translate with a little Medieval-English-Fu but I see no indication the original article is from a hack publication and it appears to be talking about what Kad is describing, grenades and all.

Addendum - you'll note the above is a Swedish source talking about Sweden whilst your source is an American one talking about Europe generally.

That's a policing problem/badly implemented immigration/policing policy.
Might have something to do with Swedish people not being very welcoming as well.
http://www.swedensucks.com/antisocial-culture.html

Absolutely right - it was stupid of the Swedish government to accept so many people so quickly, allow them all to clump together and assume they would become good socialists.

No stop trolling Kad and re-state your position formally like a good Backroomer because I have no idea what you're on about at this point and if it's so simple you can do the gentlemanly thing and explain it rather than ask us to wade through seven pages. Whatever else you can say about Kad's position he's been entirely upfront about it.

[Leet Eriksson]

Original Source - http://fof.se/tidning/2015/5/artikel...a-gangens-makt

According to Swedish Wikipedia it's a Scientific Journal published ten times a year run by a Non-Profit Organisation.

Admittedly I'm running this through Google translate with a little Medieval-English-Fu but I see no indication the original article is from a hack publication and it appears to be talking about what Kad is describing, grenades and all.

Addendum - you'll note the above is a Swedish source talking about Sweden whilst your source is an American one talking about Europe generally.



Absolutely right - it was stupid of the Swedish government to accept so many people so quickly, allow them all to clump together and assume they would become good socialists.

No stop trolling Kad and re-state your position formally like a good Backroomer because I have no idea what you're on about at this point and if it's so simple you can do the gentlemanly thing and explain it rather than ask us to wade through seven pages. Whatever else you can say about Kad's position he's been entirely upfront about it.

Do you mean the link you just posted? because his english link was definitely some sort of biased blog. Also the bloomberg article is interesting because it takes a stab at all of them as opposed to just Sweden.

Furthermore, the article i posted debunks the articles he posted, and it uses very clear language, calling it false.

[Husar]

Absolutely right - it was stupid of the Swedish government to accept so many people so quickly, allow them all to clump together and assume they would become good socialists.

Yes, it would be much better if Poland would actually behave like good catholics and take it's fair share of desperate souls, as well as some of the other xenophobic countries in Europe. That would probably result in far more manageable numbers everywhere.

No stop trolling Kad and re-state your position formally like a good Backroomer because I have no idea what you're on about at this point and if it's so simple you can do the gentlemanly thing and explain it rather than ask us to wade through seven pages. Whatever else you can say about Kad's position he's been entirely upfront about it.

Trolling Kad? He is the one repeating the same bad points every four months as though they had never been disproven. My name is not Sisyphos and for being "honest", I am not fond of repeating things over and over for someone who constantly throws veiled insults at me and combines it with veiled racism while he never provides any proof, only opinions and unsubstantiated racist garbage statements. Do you think I haven't noticed that ever since the "Africans have a lower IQ" argument was proven to be unsubstantiated racism, he replaced it with "some cultures are just HORRIBLE", which basially carries the same racist intention?

You may want to reconsider who is the troll here...I don't want to repeat the same discussion every few months and spend hours doing so, when his lack of any kind of sensible argument can also be exposed much faster. And that people can't remember anything is unfortunate, maybe that's why we always have the same discussions again and again, Im just trying to break the vicious circle...

But if you want a short repetition, we're basically crying on a very high level. Not only could we sort out our "aid" and "cooperation" that currently often exacerbates problems or even causes them, we could also put in more effort to help those who are actually in need of help.
And here in the thread we could stop assuming that everybody who arrives here is actually allowed to stay indefinitely or even to stay at all. And Im tired of the wealthy always blaming the poor. Assad was suppoted by Putin, the rebels were supplied by the CIA, who do we blame? The people who come here trying not to die. Wow, that's brave and heroic! We even come up with all kinds of assumptions on how greedy they are and that scares us because we have so much more and do not want to give them anything Surely that makes us better...