IMMIGRATION thread

[Kadagar_AV]

I don't believe open immigration is always a sound policy. But what are the actual numbers on the current situation? How many people are moving from where to where? Why are they leaving their current countries, and why do they want to come to western europe?

My suspicion is that:

Why would anyone care about your suspicions? Personally I will just shoot them down because I care about other members on this board.

- There are legitimate reasons (humanitarian, political and economic) why they are leaving their countries

Huh?

Under what law is it OK to go to another country because of economic reasons?

- Often the reasons are to do with western european nations being complicit in destabilizing their countries

Actually certain cultures are like GREAT at destabilizing their surroundings all on their own.

Russians took Swedes as slaves some hundred years ago... So because of that I shouldn't get a job, nor fight for my nations survival and well being.

Is that really an excuse in your reality?

- The current levels of migration are nothing unusual in historical terms

We must have studied different classes then.

Last time we had this kind of immigration in Europe it lead to what is called the "Dark Age".

You know, because the Vandals and stuff...

What does "Vandal" today mean?

If you still have questions about this, I would recommend you to play this game called Rome TOTAL WAR Barbaric Invasion.

- The situation is being hyped up by politicians, news channels and newspapers to generate a story

The problems are real. You might want to continue living in some la-la land, but the cold hard facts are that immigration from certain cultures are extremely problematic to include in a western society.

- More immigration is happening in poorer countries where the impact is higher than in western europe

True, mainly because the neighbouring nations are close to the bad culture that created the fuss, both culturally and geographically speaking.

The correct answer to these issues is to hold the bad culture that made the fuss at arms length, but help them in any way we can when they humbly ask for help.

Importing the bad culture will NEVER be the answer to combat it.

- Western europeans are merrily travelling/moving around the world and will reject any controls on this

Westerners have been proved to accept controls if it raise their survival chance... Check airport security.

And why do we have that type of airport security? Bad politicians for a start, of course...

But let's also remember it is because we let Arabs fly on our planes.

- The wealthy are benefiting most from immigration, and yet are orchestrating the hate from working people against immigrants

Conspiracy theory much?

General hate against the wealthy?

NO ONE is a net winner from this immigration, rich dudes also have their daughter raped and their cars scratched... Difference is that they can afford the psychological help and car insurance. The damage is still done though.

I retract the point... SOMEONE is a winner from it... ISIS as an example... Right now we have several hundred "Swedish people" doing the usual nice Muslim thingy that ISIS does.

I'm so proud to pay taxes so that ISIS fighters can go back to Sweden to rest some before they have to go back and you know, make the world hell.

There you go - some targets to shoot at.

Fish in a barrel...