IMMIGRATION thread

[Sarmatian]

There is so much wrong with that that I don't even know where to begin. Give me one argument at a time instead of a barrage of fallacies and I will destroy them one by one.

Ok. Let's go with the first one.

- Europe has an aging, dwindling population. If it weren't for immigration, that would've been a very, very serious problem by now.

Population growth is unsustainable in the long run. At some point, it has to stop and stabilise at realistic numbers. Importing people is just pushing the issue further into the future.

Wrong twice.

1) It is needed to stop population from dwindling, not increase it
2) The age issue (number of old vs number of young) remains

It also frees up resources in the countries the migrants left behind, potentially sustaining or even increasing the already high population growth there; in sum pushing the Earth even closer to its global population capacity.

Wrong again. They're moving because there isn't enough resources.

For most or all of Western Europe, inter-European migration is more than enough; if we are at all to believe in its "necessity". Many non-Western immigrants are also often poorly qualified for quite a few jobs where workers are needed.

All European countries suffer from that problem. Migrations within Europe won't change that.

There is not much of a reason to assume that the immigration will drop dramatically in the future. It might even rise, if certain countries see a rise in living standards.

Refugees from war zone should have precedence over economic migrants who can be put on hold for a few years.

In return, those who are recruited don't have go much further than outside their own houses to the bidding of the terrorist entities; like in Paris recently.

It's short term vs. long term security.