IMMIGRATION thread

[Sarmatian]

For the purpose of counting as employed 1 hour a week is sufficient. Which is why I mention it, because that is how the stats are tracked, and people think it means more than it does.

That is disingenuous. You mention 25% working full time. People working 1 hour a week are not working full time. Thus, you eliminate a significant number of immigrants working part time. Instead of calling you a liar, I'll assume you made an honest mistake and mixed some numbers up.

We do not have a huge issue with workers being exploited due to strong unions and labour laws, maybe things are different in your country?

Migrants are always exploited, especially in the first few years while they are still "getting their bearings". Less in Sweden than some other countries but it happens and much more than you think. There almost isn't a person from former Yugoslavia who didn't have to work some shitty job, with long hours and lousy pay, in the grey part of the economy for a few years after arriving in Sweden.

Surprisingly we do not count children in the employment statistics...

But you count them among migrants.

In comparison natives in the age group 18-67 69%are full time employed, this number is consistent, for refugees it reaches an amazing 34% after 15 years. 8 years is a long time, let alone 15 years. You might want to look more at the numbers if you think a three children, mother and father is the typical group either. If you have a way of doing statistics without bunching people up into groups I'm all ears.

Again, you're counting all migrants and only working age natives. There are currently 4,8 million workers in Sweden out of a population of 9,8 million, which comes to about 49% employment overall. Again, I'm not going to call you a liar, I'll assume you made an honest mistake and mixed some numbers up.

A kid aged 7 will just be graduating from a university after 15 years.

I hate to ask again, do you not know what socioeconomic factors means?

I read it the first time and it was a stupid question the first time. I've extended you the courtesy of engaging in a serious discussion with you. Be a smart ass somewhere else, or with someone else.