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    Default Re: The Blackmail of Merkel by Erdogan.

    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Terrible example because that was completely unexpected in terms of size and organization, it's a bit like saying the japanese should have built Hiroshima with nuclear bomb defense structures in mind.
    The German police prevented 9 or more islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11, don't tell me they're ignoring problems.
    They've also been talking about other problems but people tend to ignore that in favor of budget cuts until something actually happens.
    Don't tell me it's much different elsewhere or with other issue because I sort of have a list...
    Husar my problem is not that they're preempting it as much as the difference in proportion of response: all the examples you give of muslims the police confront are high damage terror plots but when it comes to lesser matters the response developes a double standard. Producing the bizzare scenario where Nationalists are reviled en mass, dealt with such strictness that a man has his property siezed for posting provocative pictures on the internet but 2000 muslim men partake in mass molestation and rape in the streets and the german government's highest priority is to avoid a backlash against the group that produced and harbours them. It makes it seem that a Muslim must be encouraging terrorism to recieve the same scrutiny that a german nationalist gathers just by shitposting.

    This drive to protect one compared to the eagerness to oppress the other being especially exhasperating when the core ideologies of both are equally rehensible, equally hostile and islam is currently much more prone to violence.

    But news articles don't prove anything, we need primary sources before we can believe it.
    You realy need to learn the difference between events, trends, news and opinion. Maybe then your attempts to use my arguments against me might actually work.
    The guy himself played the victim in the video but what else would he do? Talk about all the terrible things he did to deserve that?
    The article said the raids were "targeting people suspected of posting hate content on social media" which puts the limit of the "terrible things he did to deserve that" somewhat low and going by the recent german trend towards overreaction in that field, his claims towards innocuity become a lot more believable.
    Last edited by Greyblades; 09-03-2016 at 11:39.
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