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    Vietnam.
    Well, the Vietnam War also destabilised Cambodia and Thailand.
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    Well, the Vietnam War also destabilised Cambodia and Thailand.
    But those weren't the places where they interfered.


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    "There is a building in Strasbourgh that isn't really needed." Needed for political reason. It was (is?) the price to pay for starting the European Movement.
    Now, I am more in the mood to scrap all this EU free-market dictatorship and start again if possible, but first we have to take French traitor governments down. Never see in French History governments giving so easily sovereign powers, industries and assets to foreign powers so fast.
    Pétain comes to mind, but at least he had the excuse of German invasion (he even gave things the German invaders didn't ask for, as racial laws).
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    The Royal Navy is acting as a taxi service across the Med. dropping off migrants in Italy who then turn up at Calais a few days later. Madness.

    My view?

    Blockade the north African coast and stop any boats carrying migrants. Tow them back to the coast, dis-embark them and then sink the boat. Harsh? Yes. In the long term though, the message will get across and ultimately save lives.

    As for those in Calais, well international law says that 'refugees' should claim asylum in the first safe country they enter, so I say give them French citizenship. If only to piss off the French!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Now, I am more in the mood to scrap all this EU free-market dictatorship and start again if possible, but first we have to take French traitor governments down. Never see in French History governments giving so easily sovereign powers, industries and assets to foreign powers so fast.
    This reminds me something... Ah, yes, Lenin in 1917. Will Marxists ever change their rhetorics of "traitors yielding the national property to international capitalists" and "down with those we don't like"? The USSR story didn't teach them anything.

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    As for those in Calais, well international law says that 'refugees' should claim asylum in the first safe country they enter, so I say give them French citizenship.
    You gotta be kidding. France a safe country? Charlie Hebdo staff are laughing their butts out up above.
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    "Will Marxists ever change their rhetorics of "traitors yielding the national property to international capitalists" and "down with those we don't like"?" Pétain was not a traitor?

    "The USSR story didn't teach them anything." Apparently not as they created EU following the same way. Look, you just had Natalie Jaresko, now your Finance Minister, got a Ukrainian National Identity the day before to get the job. Before she was USanian and worked for the State Department.
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/natali...15-3?r=US&IR=T
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    I think we should bomb all the bad people in Africa to make the problem(s) go away!


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    "Will Marxists ever change their rhetorics of "traitors yielding the national property to international capitalists" and "down with those we don't like"?" Pétain was not a traitor?
    Perhaps he was. But you apply the same logics that was used in the USSR after WWII: if you stayed on the occupied (by Germans) territory you are a traitor; if you worked on the territories occupied by Germans you are a traitor; if you were a soldier and surrendered you are a traitor. Such "traitors" were then put into GULAG camps. Evidently, Marxists enjoy dividing the world into black and white.

    But the first part of your comment on the hateful government referred not to Petain, but to the current French one. Having governments down is another thing Marxists enjoy. Why are you then so negative about Ukrainians throwing down their government? This is exactly in your line of modus operandi.

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    "The USSR story didn't teach them anything." Apparently not as they created EU following the same way.
    Whatever you say. I hope you can support your claim by examples of:
    1. Freedom of speech stifled in the EU.
    2. Religion almost banned, churches destroyed and priests imprisoned in the EU.
    3. One party ruling the EU.
    4. One ideology granted constitutional supremacy in the EU.
    5. Accomodation given out free by the state to all citizens of the EU.
    6. Education and medical care free for all citizens of the EU.
    7. Going abroad almost at zero level for the citizens of EU.

    Otherwise your statement is empty.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brenus View Post
    Look, you just had Natalie Jaresko, now your Finance Minister, got a Ukrainian National Identity the day before to get the job. Before she was USanian and worked for the State Department.
    http://uk.businessinsider.com/natali...15-3?r=US&IR=T
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    Now to the point.
    1. This news is one year old, so you might as well remind us that Queen Anne is dead.
    2. There are other officials of "foreign origin" in Ukraine that were given a governmental job and Ukrainian citizenship: the minister of Economy and Trade (he is Lithuanian), the governor of Odesa region (Saakashvili), the deputy of the Interior minister (a Georgean), the head of Ukrnafta (a Brit) and many others on lower levels (like deputies of Saakashvili - from Georgia and Russia). And they, unlike Yaresko, are not of Ukrainian origin and don't speak Ukrainian.
    3. I totally approve such approach since locals are prone to be engaged by some "magnate" to promote his interests or to be personally interested (through having their own business) in directing policies of a governmental body according to their schemes.
    4. What does all of this have to do with traitors?
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