IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

Or that the current rulers are incompetent.

Very much possible, and why is that so?

They are in successful countries. That is: they don't do corruption and take up arms against the state for spurious reasons.

Is it reasonable to stick to and even propagate a system that directly aids or at least profits from the instability of other societies and then wonder why these other societies are doing so bad?

Solution: don't send money to France, keep it yourself and pay the military. That's my personal method, too; I never send any money to France.

Did you even read the article? How many of the refugees sent their money to France?

Driving out foreigners tends to be easy peasy. Just turning the locals against them goes a long way.

Yes, North Korea is only doing so well because it drove out all the foreigners.

And now you just listed up a lot of internal elements causing problems. That takes us back to where I started off.

You keep ignoring that a lot of these internal problems only came to be through external influences.

I am not blocking their citizenship because they haven't done enough, but because letting them have it is not going to fix much, and may destabilise Europe itself. What I would instead like European politicians to do, is to make an intelligent effort on contributing to fix these countries. If France is as evil as you claim, then telling France to stop being evil would be a good start.

And why then do you seemingly blame the refugees for the problems in their countries?
I agree that Europe cannot take all the refugees but you sounded as though you were saying:
"Well, it's got nothing to do with us, let's seal our borders and wait until they fix their own mess."
If that was a misunderstanding then please elaborate.