Dude, seriously? You're citing a Total War game as a legitimate source of information?Originally Posted by Kadagar_AV
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Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa
Dude, seriously? You're citing a Total War game as a legitimate source of information?
Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa
Owww you get the point. Historically mentioning the barbarian invasion isn't that odd a thing to say, it was a gradual thing long before Rome fell, Rome had already drasticly changed because of immigrants settling. Tensions between Romans and immigrants were high. Sweden is taking in WAY too many immigrants, from the most backward places of the world, and ethnic Swedes just have to deal with it.Dude, seriously? You're citing a Total War game as a legitimate source of information?
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There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.
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Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa
I spoke of the initial stages of humankind development and all the nations (including the ones you bring into your example) are much later creations.
But if we discuss them, Inniut live in what refers to "cold climate regions" and the others have moved their from the north - the regions of moderate climate.
Watch The Lord of the Rings for a closer view at landscapes.
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That, or watch 'Once were Warriors' for a healthy dose of reality
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Idaho has good intentions. So do I by the way I am actually sheltering a homeless Somali refugugee right now. np
Last edited by Fragony; 08-21-2015 at 19:54.
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In the end, Rome will fall - it always does.Dude, seriously? You're citing a Total War game as a legitimate source of information?
The only question is "Will I live to see it?" and it's pure arrogance to believe you won't, that you and your children are safe.
What we are witnessing is increasing mass migration at a time when our societies are militarily, economically and socially weak. We are vulnerable to external pressure, we are not equipped to absorb the sheer number of people flooding across our borders and our societies could collapse in a few decades if we are not careful. Our horizens have already contracted over the last fifty years, the US is the only remaining power in our cultural Bloc, first Germany and then France and Britain have fallen into what may be perpetual decay.
We hem and haw over this new Caliph but do little to stop him when a hundred years ago we would have flattened him on general principle for being a barbarian.
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Could have sworn we dont hem and haw because we can't do anything but because we don't care any more.
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Apathy is a symptom of the decline, not a cause.
We would hem and haw considerably less if if we had HMS Vanguard and her battlegroup to just sit off the Levantine Coast and blow stuff up.
I am not ashamed to say that the thought of half a dozen Vanguard-Class Battleships delivering righteous British correction to this Caliph and ungodly hordes sets my heart aflutter much like a debutante at her coming out.
Remember, despite what your mother may have told you, Aircraft Carriers are not a measure of Naval Supremacy.
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And all the innocent people with him?
A hundred years ago you would have sent boots on the ground to dislodge him and sent a lot of condolences to crying mothers for the next 50 years or more. Wasn't the latter the reason that everybody left Afghanistan to that other caliph?
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We have plenty of experience with boots here at least
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As opposed to all the letters of condolence we send to all the Yazadi women after they were raped.
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Dude, seriously? You're citing a Total War game as a legitimate source of information?
From that long post of mine, where I more or less refuted each and every point you had made... Your only comment is that I mentioned a TW game on a TW forum?
It was more used to show your lack of understanding, than as a legitimate source, surely you must have got that?
You had written:
That is just plain wrong. You for some reason, political agenda or just lack of knowledge, try to normalize the MASSIVE immigration we are seeing.- The current levels of migration are nothing unusual in historical terms
Last we had even comparable numbers of immigration to Europe, it caused the fall of the first democratic(ish-prototype) empire, caused widespread degeneration, and generally resulted in what is called the "Dark Ages".
So, well, get your facts straight.
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To anyone who is against my idea to sink the damn boats in the harbour before they set out, and drag any boats we find back to Africa...
Today I heard there was some sort of new record, with 18 ships/boats needing help... The largest had around 350 people on board...
To those who dislike my ideas, what would your own answers be? It's easy to criticize ideas you know, but why don't you come up with something better?
The situation we have no is not good for ANYONE, not us in Europe, nor them in Africa.
Something needs to be done, and fast. Just look at Macedonia currently, Police and Military having to show shock grenades and shoot rubber bullets to try and control the tide of immigrants...
And yet it's not enough to stop them, thousands still make it through a day...
I mean, I get it, they want to live in the west. I also wouldn't want to live in Africa... But at some point you have to agree that only Africa can solve African problems. We should help them, sure.
But the solution is not to move the African population here.
Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa
Macedonia, Africans? The ones storming Macedonia are mostly Syrians. Most of the Africans go to Italy and Spain, not to Greece.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/22/eu...igrant-crisis/
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-34026114Amid scenes of misery, thousands of migrants -- most of them fleeing Syria's bitter conflict -- remained stranded Saturday in a no-man's land on the border between northern Greece and Macedonia.
Should we give them guns and send them back to Syria to fix their country?
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Yepp, most are Syrians... And I honestly don't want those migration hordes lose in the society around me either...
You still just bitch about other peoples thoughts, how would you solve it?
To be quite frank, we could take every white European and move him to Africa, and then take all black/Arabic Africans and move them to Europe...
Infrastructure and everything intact as it is today.
And let's face it, a hundred years later we would have a fully functional Africa and a Europe gone to hell.
So again Husar, what do you argue would be a better way to solve it?
I say, do all we can NOT to let these types of people into functional cultures, and do our best to help them sort out their own cultural issues.
You propose... ... ... ... ... ... ??
Last edited by Kadagar_AV; 08-22-2015 at 20:42.
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It's worth pointing out that many of the Syrians have gone to Turkey, then Greece, then Macedonia then into Western Europe via the Balkans.
At some point there they must have stopped being refugees and become economic migrants.
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Add that they themselves say:
"We don't understand why they will not let us in!! We will not stay, we want to get to germany or sweden!!"
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How about you read what I proposed?
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You have not proposed ****. You gave a one-liner if even that, and ended it with a questionmark...
Is that your width and depth of argumentation?Should we give them guns and send them back to Syria to fix their country?
Last edited by Kadagar_AV; 08-22-2015 at 23:11.
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I wasn't the one you were replying to, that was Idaho. And besides that I just thought you made a silly comment, I wasn't trying to argue your point.
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Leftist people don't have to click, you can't see it it will never reach your mental hardisc so don't bother. For the rest, second video.
http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven....html#comments
refugees...
Last edited by Fragony; 08-25-2015 at 05:31.
Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa
Europe must open official channels for migrants - UN
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34049512
Why is EU struggling with migrants and asylum ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24583286
Interesting articles which is on topic.
Last edited by Beskar; 08-25-2015 at 13:57.
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Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa
For all intents there are an infinite number of persons who can come from Africa - large families ensure that populations can increase by million er year.
Migrants will head to places with a better quality of life until the destination doesn't offer an increased quality of life. There could be several mechanisms for this - either overcrowding and loss of resource per capita (relatively open borders) or with prevention or the perceived risk is to high to chance it (relatively closed borders).
There is no right approach of course - merely what future one wants. Currently Europe is dealing with the years of idealism where all the Nasty people on the other side of the Med and now the misery is a lot closer.
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