IMMIGRATION thread

**Leet Eriksson** · 08-23-2015, 02:21

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

Original Source - http://fof.se/tidning/2015/5/artikel...a-gangens-makt

According to Swedish Wikipedia it's a Scientific Journal published ten times a year run by a Non-Profit Organisation.

Admittedly I'm running this through Google translate with a little Medieval-English-Fu but I see no indication the original article is from a hack publication and it appears to be talking about what Kad is describing, grenades and all.

Addendum - you'll note the above is a Swedish source talking about Sweden whilst your source is an American one talking about Europe generally.

Absolutely right - it was stupid of the Swedish government to accept so many people so quickly, allow them all to clump together and assume they would become good socialists.

No stop trolling Kad and re-state your position formally like a good Backroomer because I have no idea what you're on about at this point and if it's so simple you can do the gentlemanly thing and explain it rather than ask us to wade through seven pages. Whatever else you can say about Kad's position he's been entirely upfront about it.

Do you mean the link you just posted? because his english link was definitely some sort of biased blog. Also the bloomberg article is interesting because it takes a stab at all of them as opposed to just Sweden.

Furthermore, the article i posted debunks the articles he posted, and it uses very clear language, calling it false.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 08-23-2015, 14:05

Originally Posted by Leet Eriksson

Do you mean the link you just posted? because his english link was definitely some sort of biased blog. Also the bloomberg article is interesting because it takes a stab at all of them as opposed to just Sweden.

Furthermore, the article i posted debunks the articles he posted, and it uses very clear language, calling it false.

I gave you the original article the blog was riffing off, and I gave you as much context as I could for it.

The Bloomberg article it basically Americans debating what they think about Europe - the Swedish one is about the situation in Sweden, and even running it through Google translate you can see it makes grim reading. Now, whether you think the article has enough statistics to support its main point is another question and a bit difficult to tell when running the whole thing through a computer program but it describes things common to European ghettos like an ethnically cohesive criminal class and a "wall of silence" when the Police try to investigate any crime, regardless of context.

Bear in mind that Americans will tend to imagine not just a ghetto but also endemic Urban decay. In Europe it's perfectly possible to have a ghetto where everything works and which you can actually walk through quite happily during the day, provided you're on the main streets. What Europeans - white Europeans - mean when they talk about a "ghetto" is somewhere where the writ of national law is thin because of local non-co-operation and where all the white people have sold up and left.

**Leet Eriksson** · 08-23-2015, 18:11

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

I gave you the original article the blog was riffing off, and I gave you as much context as I could for it.

The Bloomberg article it basically Americans debating what they think about Europe - the Swedish one is about the situation in Sweden, and even running it through Google translate you can see it makes grim reading. Now, whether you think the article has enough statistics to support its main point is another question and a bit difficult to tell when running the whole thing through a computer program but it describes things common to European ghettos like an ethnically cohesive criminal class and a "wall of silence" when the Police try to investigate any crime, regardless of context.

Bear in mind that Americans will tend to imagine not just a ghetto but also endemic Urban decay. In Europe it's perfectly possible to have a ghetto where everything works and which you can actually walk through quite happily during the day, provided you're on the main streets. What Europeans - white Europeans - mean when they talk about a "ghetto" is somewhere where the writ of national law is thin because of local non-co-operation and where all the white people have sold up and left.

The problem still lies in the fact the Bloomberg article quotes an Academic, Daniel Pipes, who has no love for Muslims at all if you even know that sort of discourse, so yeah i don't really care what the article imagines, they're stating facts and quoting and backing it up with the words of an academic, so no its not just opinion or "americans debating" or imagining things here and it really does go the whole length of the argument in calling the delusions of the articles posted by Kadagar false.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...mments/384656/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...es-non-muslims

these are to more articles on the issue, take note, the latter is a British publication, its kind of obvious the whole issue is perpetuated by delusional racists into thinking a minority that are in the single percentile controlling entire European countries.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 08-23-2015, 19:09

Originally Posted by Leet Eriksson

The problem still lies in the fact the Bloomberg article quotes an Academic, Daniel Pipes, who has no love for Muslims at all if you even know that sort of discourse, so yeah i don't really care what the article imagines, they're stating facts and quoting and backing it up with the words of an academic, so no its not just opinion or "americans debating" or imagining things here and it really does go the whole length of the argument in calling the delusions of the articles posted by Kadagar false.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...mments/384656/

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...es-non-muslims

these are to more articles on the issue, take note, the latter is a British publication, its kind of obvious the whole issue is perpetuated by delusional racists into thinking a minority that are in the single percentile controlling entire European countries.

Did you even take a look at the article I linked to?

The Swedish article quotes Academics (plural) and Swedish Police.

I realise it's in Swedish but, as I said, you could run it through Google translate or something similar and you would see that this Swedish journal is reporting the same thing about Sweden as Kad is.

Now, I don't know the Atlantic but to read the Guardian, or parts of it, you would think Julian Assange was a prisoner of conscience rather than a letch who is hiding in a foreign embassy until the statute of limitations runs out on his rape case in Sweden

Like I said, I'm not saying the journal lacks a bias but it appears more robust than Bloombery and certainly more robust than the Guardian.

I looked up Daniel Pipes - I see no reason why he should be an authority on this - the fact that he visited Paris and changed his opinion tells me he was not well informed and then altered his position based on personnal experience rather than on becoming better informed.

What you see is not always the whole truth.

**Husar** · 08-23-2015, 22:10

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

I have a bridge to sell you

This is something that the government should keep an eye on.
I also don't want an American bridge, they're all rotten and if they still work, presidential candidates close them over personal feuds.