IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

Husar, again:

When you start to argue like this:



You are just trolling (I hope, the alternative would be that you are stupid). And in either case that's not worth my time.

So sharpen your arguments or thinking, or take that I'm not interested in discussing with you.

I'm not trolling, and thanks for the insult, it's funny because you're still wrong.

Prove we are not all holograms?

Some things are impossible to prove down to the last digit, that however have nothing to do with seeing general trends. If anyone want FULL proof of anything said, the discussion will be impossible.

IE, can I PROVE that Black guy A who commited crime B did it because of cultural reasons, and not because someone slipped a drug in his drink? Nope.

Can I walk through every criminal case and directly see that culture is the reason behind it? Nope.

I posted an article that claimed the increase in numbers is due to other factors such as changes in the way police statistics are kept. You have done absolutely nothing to show that the increase is only due to immigration and not due to changes in statistical methods.

You make a wild claim that you cannot back up, ignore evidence to the contrary and then call your opposition stupid...
If you say the change are only due to immigration, you have to back this up somehow other than "it is obvious to me", because that isn't proof for anything. It is possible that immigration led to more crimes being committed, but according to the only journalistic source posted so far, it's nowhere near as drastic as you claim. And instead of backing up your claim, you resort to personal attacks, an arrogant but in no way helpful approach. If I were to report or punish you every time you (indirectly) call me stupid, you might as well be permabanned. How about you start posting sources instead of insults and personal opinions?

What we can do, is see general trends. IE, around 15% of the immigrant men committing more than 50% of the rapes.

And where are these numbers coming from? Or is that impossible to show as well?
According to you it is stupid to ask whether you have any sources for these numbers...

Same goes with the build-up of the 55 No-Go zones for the Swedish police... Is it all the immigrants fault? Of course not, but the last ghetto youth center I worked at SURE had 99 people yelling ALLAHU AKBAR for ever white dude who threw stones at police cars.

Can I prove it wasn't because of the last healthcare reform or alien overmind though? Nope.

No, but I only need to take your arguments to prove that swedish culture is rotten because it ruined its own country.
And that's not trolling, that's only to highlight how silly some of your statements are.
You keep stating that rotten cultures ruin their own countries, then you say the politicians Swedes voted into office for 30 years have ruined the country, obviously Swedish culture must be rotten because the people don't know what's good for the country.

Your arguments, not mine...

There are always other factors at work, so a question like this is either pure trolling, or semi-retarded.

Another insult?
Good argument...or should I thank you for your honesty?

To have to go through that there are NO OTHER POSSIBLE FACTORS is impossible. Again, an alien overmind at work?

You could be creative and prove that there is any kind of link in the first place. The reason I wanted you to prove the absence of other factors was that you dismissed the article that listed several other factors. You cannot just dismiss it without providing anything to back up your dismissal other than your personal opinion.
Instead you post a long tirade about how stupid I am, this is very bad form and it gets very tiring in the long run.

A serious reply would go along the lines of: "You say it is so, but have you considered this factor". That is a BR worthy argument.

PROVE THERE ARE NO OTHER POSSIBLE FACTORS is pure trolling and/or idiocy.

Your insults are hardly BR-worthy either, I suggest you start by working on them and posting actual sources instead of replying with your typical "trolling or idiot" to everything I say, which is not helpful. If I were trolling you, it would be because you constantly insult me.