IMMIGRATION thread

[Papewaio]

Links with stats va posts that appear as anecdotes without links.

KAV a couple of links would be great... It's a bit like Fragony's opening posts with no context...

[Fragony]

A simple google will do just fine. Kads isn't pulling anything out of his hat, I got family in Sweden that really want to leave, they never expected that they would ever want to. The countryside is as good as ever but I would skip the town(ships). It's simply baffling what multiculturalisms managed to screw up. Not because they had good intentions but simply out of narcissism.

Just a note to readers: Direct links do help a lot, and I would recommend these a lot. There have been a few occasions where google has failed due to language barriers and this is an international board. - Beskar

[Kadagar_AV]

Links with stats va posts that appear as anecdotes without links.

KAV a couple of links would be great... It's a bit like Fragony's opening posts with no context...

Pape, I already explained and linked to BRÅ.

What more do you want?

[wooly_mammoth]

Meh, here's a read I found on the matter. Make of it what you will. It basically points out to a corellation between increase of criminal activities over time since Sweden became a multicultural country. What I'd like is a clear classification of the perpetrators of sex crimes as function of ethnic origin, but I can't find one. If the article above is accurate, it points out to a number of sex-crimes commited by immigrants of african or middle-east origin that were tagged as "swedes".

In either case, to my simple mind "multiculturalism" is one of the dumbest ideas of the present age. The average human is too stupid and narrow-minded to be able to get along with "different" individuals.

[Fragony]

That's true, new generations are Sweish by default in the statistics, they also do that here in the Netherlands

[Leet Eriksson]

Pape, I already explained and linked to BRÅ.

What more do you want?

You threw a link in the thread, and didn't really do much effort to explain where in the link it proves your claims.

[Kadagar_AV]

You threw a link in the thread, and didn't really do much effort to explain where in the link it proves your claims.

BRÅ (Brottsförebyggande Rådet) is the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, an agency under the Ministry of Justice...

There you can find basically all info you want (except for searching for pure immigrant statistics, they stopped publish that when racists started using their numbers).

I warn you though, the page is hell to search... You'd almost think they do their best to hide some statistics...

So yeah, that is the source info.

There are pages that help people summarize the statistics, but if I link those you'd just slam me for posting "hateful racist blogs", aight?

*sigh*

[AE Bravo]

Lots of misdirected hatred here. Only people you should be blaming for the Arab refuges is Saudi f'ing Arabia, not the refugees themselves. It was our foreign policy in the Gulf states and the US's total willingness to take the same direction and enhance it that got yall into this mess. We sent you the Iraqis, Saudi and Qatar's support of "moderate" Syrian opposition sent you the Syrians, and the Yemenis are well on their way I imagine. This was thanks to you also, take responsibility for once..

I gotta say I've always had respect for the fact that most Euros (mostly from NED and Sweden) I've talked to are so open about their prejudice just like us. That in itself shows how both cultures are totally uncool for each other at the present time. Shame only the needy and clingy to their culture types make their way over there. If you leave Arabia, leave your Arabness here and stop embarrassing us.

Wish we could make a deal. Lets kick all the white people out of Dubai cus we've obviously been treating these middle class thunderkunts alot better than you've been treating not so expensive living refuges. Sex on the beach, 'rape me' miniskirts getting Pakistanis all charged up, prostitution, DUIs. This is what has been offered from these immigrants and expats, you don't see me generalizing even though I damn well could because none of these crimes has ever been committed by a native.

Oil Arabs - you come to us, we don't come to you

Now stop your uppity bs generalization OP cus shit goes both ways. You know where the money at. Peace.

[Leet Eriksson]

BRÅ (Brottsförebyggande Rådet) is the Swedish National Council for Crime Prevention, an agency under the Ministry of Justice...

There you can find basically all info you want (except for searching for pure immigrant statistics, they stopped publish that when racists started using their numbers).

I warn you though, the page is hell to search... You'd almost think they do their best to hide some statistics...

So yeah, that is the source info.

There are pages that help people summarize the statistics, but if I link those you'd just slam me for posting "hateful racist blogs", aight?

*sigh*

You think you can throw links and throwing your arms in the air without doing homework? you claimed they're ruining your country, prove it isn't BS.

[Husar]

http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crim...ecdjan2012.pdf

Actually Australia is the rape capital of the world according to these statistics.
Why are Germany and the Netherlands so low? I thought they also accept too many immigrants?
Canada and Japan never saw any immigrants, very low rape rates. Apparently Eastern Europe is perfectly safe for women as well, they hardly accept immigrants.
Germany, Netherlands and Switzerland prove that a superior host culture can decrease rapes despite high immigration.
There is a lot we can learn here.

Why are the cases of robbery so low in Sweden if the immigrants want all the money? Given the assault rate they probably just want to beat up the natives for fun. That's pretty mean indeed. And Sweden is way too low on the punitive scale. The US are much, much harsher, a success proven by being only number 4 in rape rate.

[Kadagar_AV]

You think you can throw links and throwing your arms in the air without doing homework? you claimed they're ruining your country, prove it isn't BS.

Troll.

http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crim...ecdjan2012.pdf

Actually Australia is the rape capital of the world according to these statistics.
Why are Germany and the Netherlands so low? I thought they also accept too many immigrants?
Canada and Japan never saw any immigrants, very low rape rates. Apparently Eastern Europe is perfectly safe for women as well, they hardly accept immigrants.
Germany, Netherlands and Switzerland prove that a superior host culture can decrease rapes despite high immigration.
There is a lot we can learn here.

Why are the cases of robbery so low in Sweden if the immigrants want all the money? Given the assault rate they probably just want to beat up the natives for fun. That's pretty mean indeed. And Sweden is way too low on the punitive scale. The US are much, much harsher, a success proven by being only number 4 in rape rate.

Now you are just rambling.

[wooly_mammoth]

Apparently Eastern Europe is perfectly safe for women as well, they hardly accept immigrants.

Yeah, here's the problem with the statistics. If the crime doesn't get reported, it never shows up. In Romania, at least in the rural part it's still common sense that a man can beat the crap out of a woman to straighten her out and a legal complaint at the police never actually shows up (if they even have a police office to begin with). It's the same with rape, a lot of women are afraid or ashamed to file a complaint or don't even realize that they can do that. While it's not really like having rapists lurking around every corner, I'd hardly say it's a safe place for women.

[Fragony]

http://www.civitas.org.uk/crime/crim...ecdjan2012.pdf

Actually Australia is the rape capital of the world according to these statistics.
Why are Germany and the Netherlands so low? I thought they also accept too many immigrants?
Canada and Japan never saw any immigrants, very low rape rates. Apparently Eastern Europe is perfectly safe for women as well, they hardly accept immigrants.
Germany, Netherlands and Switzerland prove that a superior host culture can decrease rapes despite high immigration.
There is a lot we can learn here.

Why are the cases of robbery so low in Sweden if the immigrants want all the money? Given the assault rate they probably just want to beat up the natives for fun. That's pretty mean indeed. And Sweden is way too low on the punitive scale. The US are much, much harsher, a success proven by being only number 4 in rape rate.

Most immigrants in the Netherlands and Germany are fom Marocco and Turkey, Marrocans aren't exactly a succes story, but it could be much much worse, and it is, especially in Sweden. The worse the better seems to be the mantra, the aid/cuddle industry legions have to eat as well

To make it slightly pretentious

There is something rotten in Sweden.
A cause a cause, my kingdom for a cause!

Shakespear always impresses.

[Papewaio]

Pape, I already explained and linked to BRÅ.

What more do you want?

Always good to put the link in the OP and explain who the Three Letter Acronym is if it is new. Puts the information in a much better context. And yes based on that site alone it appears that crime has increased. Is it poorly established multiculturalism, economic doldrums or a combination? I assume the first, but to assume is to make an...

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As for multiculturalism always failing because of the differences. I live in Australia, was born in Fiji to a Welsh mum and Kiwi dad who is of Swedish and English descent, and I'm married to a lady born in Taiwan. Australia is generally on the higher end of country well being statistics yet a quarter of us were born overseas and even more of us are second/third generation.

As for genetics just remember man and woman are the two most differen races on the planet.

[Kadagar_AV]

Always good to put the link in the OP and explain who the Three Letter Acronym is if it is new. Puts the information in a much better context. And yes based on that site alone it appears that crime has increased. Is it poorly established multiculturalism, economic doldrums or a combination? I assume the first, but to assume is to make an...

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As for multiculturalism always failing because of the differences. I live in Australia, was born in Fiji to a Welsh mum and Kiwi dad who is of Swedish and English descent, and I'm married to a lady born in Taiwan. Australia is generally on the higher end of country well being statistics yet a quarter of us were born overseas and even more of us are second/third generation.

As for genetics just remember man and woman are the two most differen races on the planet.

* Australia shipped back illegal refugees coming by boat per automatic and ended the problem... No?

* Last I checked, you needed to be able to show you could support yourself to get entrance, it's not like you have gypsy beggars every 5 meters in your bigger cities, is it?

* You expect immigrants to become Australians instead of bending over.

* Your refugees are East Asians with east Asian intelligence. Try some Somalis mate.

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*yes, I should have sourced the OP better, it was lazy of me, with that said, am I really known to draw numbers from my behind?*