IMMIGRATION thread

[Fragony]

Leftist people don't have to click, you can't see it it will never reach your mental hardisc so don't bother. For the rest, second video.

http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven....html#comments

refugees...

[Beskar]

Europe must open official channels for migrants - UN
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34049512

Why is EU struggling with migrants and asylum ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-24583286

Interesting articles which is on topic.

[rory_20_uk]

For all intents there are an infinite number of persons who can come from Africa - large families ensure that populations can increase by million er year.

Migrants will head to places with a better quality of life until the destination doesn't offer an increased quality of life. There could be several mechanisms for this - either overcrowding and loss of resource per capita (relatively open borders) or with prevention or the perceived risk is to high to chance it (relatively closed borders).

There is no right approach of course - merely what future one wants. Currently Europe is dealing with the years of idealism where all the Nasty people on the other side of the Med and now the misery is a lot closer.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

One notes that the BBC is still calling them refugees but the UN calls them migrants - which highlights the crucial point that most of these people aren't interested in going home.

So, we need to make their homes more attractive - if they're so intent on living in Europe maybe Europe should just run the Middle East?

I'm not seriously suggesting the EU try to recreate Pax Romanum but it's the logical conclusion of the immigrants' own thinking - they are coming from the Old African and Levantine provinces into the European ones. Clearly - they want to be like us, they want working roads and sewers and expensive, pointless, public buildings and a society run by an apathetic elite - they want to be MORE ROMAN.

[InsaneApache]

they want to be MORE ROMAN.

Well you asked for it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIAdHEwiAy8

[rory_20_uk]

One notes that the BBC is still calling them refugees but the UN calls them migrants - which highlights the crucial point that most of these people aren't interested in going home.

So, we need to make their homes more attractive - if they're so intent on living in Europe maybe Europe should just run the Middle East?

I'm not seriously suggesting the EU try to recreate Pax Romanum but it's the logical conclusion of the immigrants' own thinking - they are coming from the Old African and Levantine provinces into the European ones. Clearly - they want to be like us, they want working roads and sewers and expensive, pointless, public buildings and a society run by an apathetic elite - they want to be MORE ROMAN.

And this has often been a problem in parts of Europe for the last c. 50 years. Immigrants want in essence their own country to be economically prosperous with good infrastructure and since it isn't they'll recreate that elsewhere. They would rather stay where they are and do not really want to be part of the new country they find themselves.

[Fragony]

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also, these "refugees" would have been safe in turkey or Greece or Hungary, or Saudi arbia for that matter. Then pray tell why they are flocking to Sweden Germany and the U.K.

Simple questjon simple answer, things are easier there for them. Once they made it there they are in for all the free money. 400 in the UK, more in Sweden.

[Husar]

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also, these "refugees" would have been safe in turkey or Greece or Hungary, or Saudi arbia for that matter. Then pray tell why they are flocking to Sweden Germany and the U.K.

They are even safer in Germany, there are even rumors that Greece and possibly Italy give them money to pay for the travels to other countries as they don't want all of them to stay. Not to forget that the EU does not want to them to flock to just two southern countries, it's called solidarity. Turkey is incredibly selfish anyway as we could see with them bombing our kurdish allies first chace they got, wouldn't be surprised if they also happily lend them a hand to have fewer camps on their own turf.

Research has also shown that refugees also prefer countries with existing refugee networks of their countrymen, compare it to exchange students typically hanging out a lot with other exchange students because it is easier, sounds like typical human behavior then, no?
In Germany they get less money than an unemployed German on Hartz IV, and Germans complain a lot that Hartz IV is not enough to live, can't be such a paradise then, yet we take a whole lot of refugees who actually want to come here. They are also not allowed to work for at least three months and can't get a work permit if a German is ready to take the same job. So if they're just coming to steal our jobs or for the abundant money, they may be in for a surprise, and yet they keep coming.

Apparently in Sweden they get a room in the Hilton and in the UK they get 1000 pounds a day for each baby or something, but many of them still stay in Germany with the Nazi-like rules for some reason. Oh and as long as their sttus is unclear, they get no money at all here, they have to live in camps and have to order food and other things from the authorities up to a certain budget. Thre was a hunger strike in one of these camps because they weren't quite fond of these luxurious conditions. But yeah, we're being too nice to them, actual concentration camps would probably be more suitable.

[Husar]

Just saw this, the german government called in the army to deal with the refugee crisis, finally!

Finally they are doing something!



Luxurious tents are too luxurious though I assume. Everybody will want to have one now.