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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    http://www.heute-show.de/ZDF/artikel...ungskultur.php

    Bavarian ministress of social issues greets a refugee (roughly translated):

    "Okay, are you housed well here?"
    "Yes, it's fine."
    "But you know that you have to go back, right?"
    Ha!

    Sell her the bridge.

    Meanwhile, migrants protest in Budapest at being stuck in Hungary

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34128263

    Refugees my foot.
    "If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Meanwhile, migrants protest in Budapest at being stuck in Hungary

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-34128263

    Refugees my foot.
    As if to underscore the point, there are even Syrian migrants crossing into Norway via the Russo-Norwegian border, which is located north of the polar circle. They've more or less travelled from beyond the southernmost parts of Europe to the northernmost parts.

    They might as well travel all the way to Svalbard, no visa requirements for settling there..

    Everyone may, in principle, travel to Svalbard, and foreign nationals do not need a visa or a work or residence permit from Norwegian authorities in order to settle in Svalbard.
    http://www.emb-norway.or.th/studywor.../#.Vedx0_mqpBc
    http://www.sysselmannen.no/en/Visito...and-residence/
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    Default Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa

    Interesting twitter trend.. Africa not shown in the media.
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    Default Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa

    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Interesting twitter trend.. Africa not shown in the media.
    I'm not sure how to tell you this Beskar, but the people in those photographs, who live in those houses, aren't the ones fighting their way to Europe to be either criminals or toilet cleaners.

    They're rather more like you, insulated from the real world.
    "If it wears trousers generally I don't pay attention."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    I'm not sure how to tell you this Beskar, but the people in those photographs, who live in those houses, aren't the ones fighting their way to Europe to be either criminals or toilet cleaners.
    I am aware.

    The remark is to highlight that Africa is more than simple mud huts, and that things can improve in Africa allowing them to have a potential for a diverse and growing economy which would limit excessive immigration and it shows that 'Africa' is not doomed to be a perpetual basket case that a lot in the media portray.

    I apologise that finer nuances were lost on you.

    They're rather more like you, insulated from the real world.
    You're grasping at straws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    You're grasping at straws.
    As I recall your parents are well healed and you have lived in a developed Urban environment - I grew up surrounded by rural poverty, and part of it.
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    Russian and American rural poverty is more meaningful and instructive than English rural poverty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    As I recall your parents are well healed and you have lived in a developed Urban environment - I grew up surrounded by rural poverty, and part of it.
    I live in a town which is infamous for its high poverty, crime rates and poor health, often in the "the 10 notable" for the worst rates for everything in Britain pretty much. I am from a working-class background where my mother worked two-three jobs at one point to put food on the table as the sole parent before my step-father joined us.

    My current employment is mostly working with the highly vulnerable in society, often poor and destitute in the area, because it is that bad here, we don't even have clean tap water at the moment, we have to boil it to kill the parasites (and this is the UK!).

    But my work experience involves the rich, poor, young, old, families, alone, a great range of the demographics. I work as a multi-disciplinary team, I often come face-to-face with people suffering cases or have even been part of, such as domestic violence, rape, murder and even paedophilia. During all this, I need to help these individuals with their physical, mental and social needs, tackling the serious issues in their life and helping a lot of people finding reasons so they want live. So from lofty heights to what media portrays as the scum of society, I am there, helping all these people with care and compassion, being a trustworthy individual they can rely on to help them through their hard and vulnerable times, without discrimination and tailored to their needs. Yes, I do this in environments where there are actual risks to my life as well.

    As afaik, my work could take me as far north as Carnforth and as far South as Ormskirk, to as far East as Burnley, but it has even stretched as far as Carlisle, Manchester and Merseyside. That covers some of most deprived rural lands in the UK as well as some of the most deprived urban areas.

    I suppose all that luxury 'developed urban environment' means I am 'sheltered'.
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