IMMIGRATION thread

[Beskar]

I'm not sure how to tell you this Beskar, but the people in those photographs, who live in those houses, aren't the ones fighting their way to Europe to be either criminals or toilet cleaners.

I am aware.

The remark is to highlight that Africa is more than simple mud huts, and that things can improve in Africa allowing them to have a potential for a diverse and growing economy which would limit excessive immigration and it shows that 'Africa' is not doomed to be a perpetual basket case that a lot in the media portray.

I apologise that finer nuances were lost on you.

They're rather more like you, insulated from the real world.

You're grasping at straws.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

You're grasping at straws.

As I recall your parents are well healed and you have lived in a developed Urban environment - I grew up surrounded by rural poverty, and part of it.

[Montmorency]

Russian and American rural poverty is more meaningful and instructive than English rural poverty.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Russian and American rural poverty is more meaningful and instructive than English rural poverty.

We have a few more cops and better education, true, but we're still talking about a society quite divorced urban Europe.

[Beskar]

As I recall your parents are well healed and you have lived in a developed Urban environment - I grew up surrounded by rural poverty, and part of it.

I live in a town which is infamous for its high poverty, crime rates and poor health, often in the "the 10 notable" for the worst rates for everything in Britain pretty much. I am from a working-class background where my mother worked two-three jobs at one point to put food on the table as the sole parent before my step-father joined us.

My current employment is mostly working with the highly vulnerable in society, often poor and destitute in the area, because it is that bad here, we don't even have clean tap water at the moment, we have to boil it to kill the parasites (and this is the UK!).

But my work experience involves the rich, poor, young, old, families, alone, a great range of the demographics. I work as a multi-disciplinary team, I often come face-to-face with people suffering cases or have even been part of, such as domestic violence, rape, murder and even paedophilia. During all this, I need to help these individuals with their physical, mental and social needs, tackling the serious issues in their life and helping a lot of people finding reasons so they want live. So from lofty heights to what media portrays as the scum of society, I am there, helping all these people with care and compassion, being a trustworthy individual they can rely on to help them through their hard and vulnerable times, without discrimination and tailored to their needs. Yes, I do this in environments where there are actual risks to my life as well.

As afaik, my work could take me as far north as Carnforth and as far South as Ormskirk, to as far East as Burnley, but it has even stretched as far as Carlisle, Manchester and Merseyside. That covers some of most deprived rural lands in the UK as well as some of the most deprived urban areas.

I suppose all that luxury 'developed urban environment' means I am 'sheltered'.

[Montmorency]

Don't worry Strike, yours is without measure.

[Husar]

http://www.eeas.europa.eu/csdp/missi...d/index_en.htm

Apparently the EU is already working on tackling the traffickers and wants to extend the mission in October with seven warships, one aircraft carrier, several submarines and airplanes. If the German parliament agrees, Germany will be part of the extension apparently.
What seems strange is that the operation is supposed to end one year after reaching full operational capacity, will that be enough time to deter human trafficking for the future? Where will all the Africans go? Will someone willing to risk his life just go home and say "oh well..."?

[Gilrandir]

What seems strange is that the operation is supposed to end one year after reaching full operational capacity, will that be enough time to deter human trafficking for the future? Where will all the Africans go? Will someone willing to risk his life just go home and say "oh well..."?

By that time all Africa will have been empty of people.

[Kadagar_AV]

These good parents looking out for their childrens best interest sure made an appealing appeal to get into the EU...

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...wn-babies.html


Be all PC you want... But if you are in ANY way honest with yourself, you will realise that accepting a LOAD of immigrants from a continent with cultures that are ****, and who produce 5 children per 2 people... ... ... ... Will just mean we prolong the death throes of a failing culture, alternatively doing so while ruining our own culture.

Win/win anyone?