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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    As I recall your parents are well healed and you have lived in a developed Urban environment - I grew up surrounded by rural poverty, and part of it.
    I live in a town which is infamous for its high poverty, crime rates and poor health, often in the "the 10 notable" for the worst rates for everything in Britain pretty much. I am from a working-class background where my mother worked two-three jobs at one point to put food on the table as the sole parent before my step-father joined us.

    My current employment is mostly working with the highly vulnerable in society, often poor and destitute in the area, because it is that bad here, we don't even have clean tap water at the moment, we have to boil it to kill the parasites (and this is the UK!).

    But my work experience involves the rich, poor, young, old, families, alone, a great range of the demographics. I work as a multi-disciplinary team, I often come face-to-face with people suffering cases or have even been part of, such as domestic violence, rape, murder and even paedophilia. During all this, I need to help these individuals with their physical, mental and social needs, tackling the serious issues in their life and helping a lot of people finding reasons so they want live. So from lofty heights to what media portrays as the scum of society, I am there, helping all these people with care and compassion, being a trustworthy individual they can rely on to help them through their hard and vulnerable times, without discrimination and tailored to their needs. Yes, I do this in environments where there are actual risks to my life as well.

    As afaik, my work could take me as far north as Carnforth and as far South as Ormskirk, to as far East as Burnley, but it has even stretched as far as Carlisle, Manchester and Merseyside. That covers some of most deprived rural lands in the UK as well as some of the most deprived urban areas.

    I suppose all that luxury 'developed urban environment' means I am 'sheltered'.
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    http://www.eeas.europa.eu/csdp/missi...d/index_en.htm

    Apparently the EU is already working on tackling the traffickers and wants to extend the mission in October with seven warships, one aircraft carrier, several submarines and airplanes. If the German parliament agrees, Germany will be part of the extension apparently.
    What seems strange is that the operation is supposed to end one year after reaching full operational capacity, will that be enough time to deter human trafficking for the future? Where will all the Africans go? Will someone willing to risk his life just go home and say "oh well..."?


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    Default Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa

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    What seems strange is that the operation is supposed to end one year after reaching full operational capacity, will that be enough time to deter human trafficking for the future? Where will all the Africans go? Will someone willing to risk his life just go home and say "oh well..."?
    By that time all Africa will have been empty of people.
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    Default Re: The Issue of African illegal immigrants from Africa

    These good parents looking out for their childrens best interest sure made an appealing appeal to get into the EU...

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...wn-babies.html


    Be all PC you want... But if you are in ANY way honest with yourself, you will realise that accepting a LOAD of immigrants from a continent with cultures that are ****, and who produce 5 children per 2 people... ... ... ... Will just mean we prolong the death throes of a failing culture, alternatively doing so while ruining our own culture.

    Win/win anyone?

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    From Germany, teacher was highly surprised by the footage of refugees ariving. She was in the same train. All cameramen filmed tne wagon with old people, women and children. Real refugees. The rest of the train was filled with healthy, well-dressed young males with the latest smartphones. Nobody filmed that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    From Germany, teacher was highly surprised by the footage of refugees ariving. She was in the same train. All cameramen filmed tne wagon with old people, women and children. Real refugees. The rest of the train was filled with healthy, well-dressed young males with the latest smartphones. Nobody filmed that.
    How could she tell those were the latest smartphones? A lot of countries get used ones from richer countries or Chinese copies etc.
    And yes, if you can afford to pay a smuggler thousands, a smartphone is probably a side-purchase. Not to forget that if the entire family or village can only afford to send one person to a better life after a really demanding journey, they usually won't spend all their money on the old grandmother with lung cancer...
    You are aware that they will all be greeted by police once they leave the train and they all have to apply for asylum and go through an extensive checking process, right? This process can take quite a few months during which they live in the temporary shelters provided to them, get no money and are not allowed to work. They can choose food and other things from a budget lower than what an unemployed German gets and the government will buy and provide that. If their reasons for coming here are not believable and they cannot show actually being in danger, they are sent back. And by the way, how does a Syrian or an Afghan wearing a suit make his country more safe?
    Your post seems full of fake "arguments" that are supposed to make people believe that they are not real refugees. Some of them may not be, but you can't say that based on their phone or their clothes.


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