IMMIGRATION thread

[Kadagar_AV]

Love how you still focus on me instead of the betterment of Germany or Europe... Is this the new BR standard?



I love you all, you guys rock my world!

[Viking]

First of all, I am not - to take an example, saying everyone in Japan is intelligent. What I am saying is that if we take in loads of people from Japan to - say - Sweden, school results are likely to go up.

What I am saying is: how do long you expect that increase to last, when the Japanese gradually adopt a Swedish lifestyle?

That is not even prejudice, it's fact. Hey, I even heard that in the USA, students are told to "keep down" their asianess if they want to get into uni, as there are so many asians there and the unis try to run race-programs to make society more "equal" for the blacks.

Again, the assumption here is that the difference will last. If you travelled from Rome to Sweden during ancient times, you could easily be led to the conclusion that Sweden will remain a place where hardly anyone can read, while Rome will remain the shining jewel of civilisation. What actually happened is that the rest of Europe over time exceeded the original Roman standards by a lot.

How the HELL can you from anything I have written drawn the conclusion that I would in any way support expelling Swedes below a certain IQ score?

I didn't. That was part of the point. Much concern about unintelligent foreigners. Equally unintelligent Swedes? Nah, what's the problem? They are probably stupid in an OK manner, or something.

AND LOL, do you actually live in a world, where if you wanted a guard dog, you would not be able to see any difference between dog breeds, as DNA can't prove who would be the most adequate?

How do you go about finding out which breed is most suitable for guard duty? By teaching at a dog school where one breed comes from homes we're they've been trained well, one breed coming from a home where their owners gave them way too little food and one breed that came in from the street? You think that would be a fair comparison?

No, you'll utilise the fact that dogs have been bred with specific purposes in mind. This allows the different dog breeds to become caricatures where they can have exaggerated characteristics relative to the average, and where the original breeders will know which traits were selected for - information that can be passed on over generations.

Humans weren't bred in any similar fashion, so you don't have that kind of information for them. Comparing breeding of dogs to human evolution is hardly useful in this context for such reasons.

DAMN MAN, have you taught African kids much? I have, and it's an absolute HORROR.

Look what I just wrote:

Nutrition could influence, education could influence; and effects could accumulate over generations.

Either you don't comprehend the argument, or you just skipped right over it; or you are just looking for another excuse to rant. Which one is it?