IMMIGRATION thread

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

But each of those 1000 is just one guy to his respective teacher, Kadagar claims to think in terms of the larger political picture, then surely he would be aware of it and know that he is contributing to the system at large? It's a bit like saying that your vote in a democracy has no impact and therefore it does not matter who you vote for.

OK - so - lets say a Syrian family moves in next door, lets say they're Syriac Christians even and they're in Germany because they're fleeing IS? Great right? Nobody, not even Kad is going to object to one refugee family on the street, even if they don't understand the local way of doing things they can and will learn, their children will go to the local school and get a good, German, education.

Excellent.

Now, suppose half the houses on the street are taken up by Syriac Christians who, having clumped together, don't integrate but stay huddled as a group. Now, this is understandable but it presents a bit of a problem when, say, the men start of congregate in the even outside their houses and get a bit drunk and rowdy rather than going to the tavern and getting rowdy there and then rolling home, which is more or less what I assume German men do. It gets a bit more awkward when all the children clump together at school and speak their native language together because they'll be much harder for the children to police - to know if someone is being bullied etc.

This is a bit of a problem but with the effort of the local town government you can probably smooth things over if you get the adults of the dozen or so families together and explain that you want them there but that certain things they are doing are not considered appropriate in Germany.

OK - now three streets - bigger problem, harder to handle.

Now a whole district of the town - at this point you're basically going to have a self contained community, there's no real chance of "integration" into German society, the best you can hope for is co-operation and coexistence, but you now have a new, separate, community in the town.

Now, different people have different thresholds they are willing to accept, some will accept a single family, some a few in one street, some will accept whole districts in towns and cities being transformed so long as they obey the law - and some will make excuses for the newcomers and claim we shouldn't be so hard on them for not following our laws.

Kad is clearly fairly far down on the scale, probably more than one family to a street but below the level where you get any clumping together on street corners.