IMMIGRATION thread

[Fragony]

Who wouldn't?

Or to ask from a different angle, would you rather see them commit lots of war crimes for the evil dictator or one of the evil islamist factions?

Most aren't refugees, only a small percentage is

[Husar]

Most aren't refugees, only a small percentage is

According to my country, around 40-50%, wouldn't call that a small percentage. And that's counting all asylum seekers, I was referring to Syrians mostly in my last reply.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

According to my country, around 40-50%, wouldn't call that a small percentage. And that's counting all asylum seekers, I was referring to Syrians mostly in my last reply.

So 40-50 are asylum seekers, how many of those will be granted asylum?

Look - we have thousands of people who are basically beating up the locals and demanding access to Europe's gooey centre - I doubt it's because they prefer German to Greek weather.

Anyway, the real problem here is the same as the Euro - common institutions without common governance.

Like the EUro this is something the UK managed to remain apart from.

[Husar]

So 40-50 are asylum seekers, how many of those will be granted asylum?

I think there is a misunderstanding, I meant to say that 40-50% of asylum seekers are accepted as valid asylum seekers after relatively thorough considerations. The entire process doesn't take months because we are careless in checking their applications. Although they do want to speed it up now since it keeps the people in limbo for too long.

Look - we have thousands of people who are basically beating up the locals and demanding access to Europe's gooey centre - I doubt it's because they prefer German to Greek weather.

Anyway, the real problem here is the same as the Euro - common institutions without common governance.

Like the EUro this is something the UK managed to remain apart from.

If you have nothing to loose, why settle for another bad place? It's common sense.
As for the lack of EU integration, people clearly wanted that in the referendums, no?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

So, on average, 45% of the 500,000 people who have come to Europe this year are deemed to have valid claims by Germany? Or just the Syrians?

Just so I fully understand.

If those are the sort of numbers we're talking about then I'm genuinely inclined to say we should just ramp up military production and take over you everyone's sake

As to the lack of integration - the problem is integration proceeded WITHOUT Referenda, leading to the democratic deficit and the current paralysis because the leaders of various EU nations know that doing the best thing for the EU won't get them re-elected.

[Husar]

So, on average, 45% of the 500,000 people who have come to Europe this year are deemed to have valid claims by Germany? Or just the Syrians?

Just so I fully understand.

No, that was 2014 or so. If you want the numbers for this year, you have to ask your local seer. I don't think 500000 have even arrived yet.
It is possible that of the Syrians, more will be accepted, but that would just debunk the claim that only a minority are valid refugees even more. Unless you want to claim that the immigration agencies are completely unable to do their jobs and the judges in courts are all stupid.

If those are the sort of numbers we're talking about then I'm genuinely inclined to say we should just ramp up military production and take over you everyone's sake

Not quite sure what you are saying or why.

As to the lack of integration - the problem is integration proceeded WITHOUT Referenda, leading to the democratic deficit and the current paralysis because the leaders of various EU nations know that doing the best thing for the EU won't get them re-elected.

If I'm not mistaken the integration is not quite the one that was wanted, no?