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    The first death of a "migrant" on the EU border happned last night in Bulgaria.

    A group of 50 men who claim to be from Afghanistan entered Bulgarian territory illegally, through mountanous terrain, and were about 80 or so kilometers inside Bulgaria when they were confronted by a team of 3 border policemen who were sent to investigate an alarm by the automatic perimeter system.

    One of them was armed, and they allegedly tried to intimade the guardsmen. The border patrol produced a warning shot, but this happened under a bridge and the ricochet wounded the illegal migrant. He died en route to the hospital, the rest were detained and taken to a refugee camp.

    On the body of the dead man was found a loaded pistol and a mobile phone with two sim cards. The men are described to be 54 in number, aged 20 to 35 and in good physical condition.

    Migrants? I think not.

    They entered the border illegally, and were trudging through forested mountanous terrain at 10 PM in the cover of darkness. Yet, now the EU liberals are crying over the poor, defensless migrant who died.

    Newsflash: if you seek asylum and refugee status, you go through the border checkpoints. Not through the mountains, not whilst carrying weapons and not in a brigade of 50 able bodied men, not during the cover of darkness and definitely you do not try to intimidate the boreder patrol once discovered.
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    Migrants yes, refugees no.

    Hey Merkel, thanks

    And gutmensch was so devestated when Wilers warned for an islamic tsunami, who's right now. Can we please gently but firmly escort gutmensch to his library and stuff his pipe so he feels comfortable by now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    The first death of a "migrant" on the EU border happned last night in Bulgaria.

    A group of 50 men who claim to be from Afghanistan entered Bulgarian territory illegally, through mountanous terrain, and were about 80 or so kilometers inside Bulgaria when they were confronted by a team of 3 border policemen who were sent to investigate an alarm by the automatic perimeter system.

    One of them was armed, and they allegedly tried to intimade the guardsmen. The border patrol produced a warning shot, but this happened under a bridge and the ricochet wounded the illegal migrant. He died en route to the hospital, the rest were detained and taken to a refugee camp.

    On the body of the dead man was found a loaded pistol and a mobile phone with two sim cards. The men are described to be 54 in number, aged 20 to 35 and in good physical condition.

    Migrants? I think not.

    They entered the border illegally, and were trudging through forested mountanous terrain at 10 PM in the cover of darkness. Yet, now the EU liberals are crying over the poor, defensless migrant who died.

    Newsflash: if you seek asylum and refugee status, you go through the border checkpoints. Not through the mountains, not whilst carrying weapons and not in a brigade of 50 able bodied men, not during the cover of darkness and definitely you do not try to intimidate the boreder patrol once discovered.
    None of the major news networks are reporting the man was armed only that he was shot and killed... and the official statement of the Bulgarian police reads "None of the migrants were armed, but they put up resistance." so it may be a case of Chinese whispers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    On the body of the dead man was found a loaded pistol and a mobile phone with two sim cards. The men are described to be 54 in number, aged 20 to 35 and in good physical condition.

    Migrants? I think not.
    Obviously, they wanted to invade Bulgaria.

    Let's all take a step back and remember, Castro took control of Cuba with 81 men.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    Obviously, they wanted to invade Bulgaria.

    Let's all take a step back and remember, Castro took control of Cuba with 81 men.
    That far a stretch that they weren't there with any good intentions? We should at least consider that. We would be idiots if we don't.

    Feel free to call me an idiot anyway
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    Let's all take a step back and remember, Castro took control of Cuba with 81 men.
    To be fair, he did it by sparking popular revolt in the Sierra Maestra mountains.

    I doubt there's any popular Islamist sentiment brewing amongst the natives of southeastern Bulgaria, which by the way is far less forested and elevated than the Sierra Maestra.
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    They are not from Bulgeria they just arive there

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    Sarmatian, if you like them so much be my guest, go to Afghanistan and get culturally enriched. Those were 50 able bodied men sneaking in through the dead of night, being guided via mobile phone. They attempted to intimitade the border guards. The report I read stated that at least one handgun was confiscaeted after the fact.

    They didn't try to invade Bulgaria, I don't need your snide remarks. Their goal was to go further inside Europe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Sarmatian, if you like them so much be my guest, go to Afghanistan and get culturally enriched. Those were 50 able bodied men sneaking in through the dead of night, being guided via mobile phone. They attempted to intimitade the border guards. The report I read stated that at least one handgun was confiscaeted after the fact.

    They didn't try to invade Bulgaria, I don't need your snide remarks. Their goal was to go further inside Europe.
    Again since everyone has ignored me - the Official police statement says the migrants were NOT armed but were resisting - there is no mention of a recovered firearm in any report I have found.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    That far a stretch that they weren't there with any good intentions? We should at least consider that. We would be idiots if we don't.

    Feel free to call me an idiot anyway
    I'd be more afraid of 50 Red Star fans than of them, let's put it that way.

    And 3 policemen would not be nearly enough in that case, trust me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Sarmatian, if you like them so much be my guest, go to Afghanistan and get culturally enriched. Those were 50 able bodied men sneaking in through the dead of night, being guided via mobile phone. They attempted to intimitade the border guards. The report I read stated that at least one handgun was confiscaeted after the fact.

    They didn't try to invade Bulgaria, I don't need your snide remarks. Their goal was to go further inside Europe.
    Why don't you go there? That's approximately where you're from, no? It took us a while to civilize you. You should now help others. Go, fly my pretties! Fly!

    Kidding aside - it is about time to stop this fear mongering. There are hundreds of thousands of refugees/immigrants, however you want to call them. Odds are, there will be idiots among them.

    Considering these people have crossed half a world, in cold or heat, hunger, sometimes traveling with their families, sometimes worrying about them, with limited access to health care, been treated by some worse than cattle, forced into small camps with low hygiene, it's a credit they're holding so well.

    I'd be seriously pissed off in their place by now.
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