IMMIGRATION thread

[AE Bravo]

What a great way to assimilate to a culture that is the polar opposite of yours, parade its streets.

[Fragony]

What a great way to assimilate to a culture that is the polar opposite of yours, parade its streets.

Hussie has a good heart, I think he is terribly mistaken though.

[Greyblades]

I think that protest might be an palestinian protest march:

http://www.jpost.com/Arab-Israeli-Co...ntifada-426010

[Husar]

What a great way to assimilate to a culture that is the polar opposite of yours, parade its streets.

Hussie has a good heart, I think he is terribly mistaken though.

You don't even realize when I'm making fun of/mocking them?

If they want my well-meaning attention, they have to speak German...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

You don't even realize when I'm making fun of/mocking them?

If they want my well-meaning attention, they have to speak German...

I'm sure we covered the fact that nobody can read when you're being sarcastic over a year ago in the Ukraine thread.

[Husar]

I'm sure we covered the fact that nobody can read when you're being sarcastic over a year ago in the Ukraine thread.

Given that there are plenty of people outside the Backroom and even a few within who get my sarcasm right away, I know where the actual problem lies.

At the moment my biggest beef with this whole topic is that there are three scenarios:
1) Germany is full of foreign rapists
2) Germany is full of racists/nazis
3) A bit of 1 and 2

None of them sounds good to me.
Of course the truth is probably 3, but that does not make it better.
I don't think immigration is a problem in itself, the problem is that people make a huge issue out of immigration itself when from all I read the true problem lies with the laws, rules and the way it is handled by the government. That includes laws which are far too soft for some types of crime (we were too busy trying to jail people who copy a CD for the rest of their lives because Hollywood vult), laws which have even allowed inner-European criminals to operate in a cozy environment (no one cared much so far because they don't seem to turn German daughters into sex slaves and the Italians mostly shoot each other). Add to this that getting so many people at once (other countries conveniently collected them before they let them all through at once) causes actual logistics problems in a housing market where rents were already going up (that's a point for Fragony). And national measures to actually do a lot about it, such as raising new housing blocks are unthinkable and even with a lot of effort not possible within a month or two. So you end up "storing" the refugees somewhere, which causes other problems such as rape and whatnot. If some villages are half refugee population now, the distribution is also horribly implemented. 1.5 million refugees with a population of 82 million is 1.8%, so if some places have 50% or even anywhere above 10% refugee population, the distribution is badly organized.

To blame all this on the refugees is a bit silly though, our country was already a bit too much of a paradise for criminals before they arrived and not all of them are criminals after all.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Given that there are plenty of people outside the Backroom and even a few within who get my sarcasm right away, I know where the actual problem lies.

Yes, I said it may well be that you're the funniest man here and we're all morons, but that doesn't change the fact that your responses are far too deadpan for text.

As you say, immigration itself is not inherently bad, but there are questions of scale, of the origin and circumstances of this particular wave of immigrants, and of their sense of entitlement.

One assumes the average German likes living in Germany, speaking German and drinking German beer. Anything that threatens that should be expected to provoke a negative reaction - anything that seriously or repeatedly threatens that might provoke a violent reaction.

If there is a problem with modern Germans it is the self-censorship for fear of being labled Nazis, rather than Germans actually being Nazis.

The rest of Europe secretly think Germans are like this:

[Montmorency]

The rest of Europe secretly think Germans are like this:

I'm not so sure. 20 years ago, that may have been funny; now, the laughter is distinctly nervous...

[Fragony]

You don't even realize when I'm making fun of/mocking them?

If they want my well-meaning attention, they have to speak German...

I apreciate your sarcasm really, but I know you are deeply wrong

[Husar]

I apreciate your sarcasm really, but I know you are deeply wrong

About what? How can you say I'm deeply wrong when I was basically agreeing with you?
Or am I wrong until I demand gas chambers for immigrants according to you?

[Fragony]

About what? How can you say I'm deeply wrong when I was basically agreeing with you?
Or am I wrong until I demand gas chambers for immigrants according to you?

Can take it too far. You aren't basicly agreeing with me as you see no problem with the immense blunder Mutti Theresa made. It's going to take a while before anyone is going to take Germany serious again, nobody wants to share the burden. Been a while since countries are fortifying their borders. Since we are in Godwin territory, Germany is finally going to be judenrein, but juden are going to leave voluntary this time, they understand perfectly well what Mutti Theresa let in.

[Sarmatian]

they understand perfectly well what Mutti Theresa let in.

That has a head, torso, two legs, two arms, walks upright so definitely primates. Not enough hair to be apes so I make a motion we call that people, and the offspring of that -> children.