IMMIGRATION thread

[Montmorency]

The rest of Europe secretly think Germans are like this:

I'm not so sure. 20 years ago, that may have been funny; now, the laughter is distinctly nervous...

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

I'm not so sure. 20 years ago, that may have been funny; now, the laughter is distinctly nervous...

Inside every German is just another German. All we've seen in the last five years is that they've stopped simpering and started thinking about their own country again - something I applaud. I hope they get their army properly in order too, last I heard a lot of them were too fat to pass a basic physical.

Germany is a big country with a wealthy populace and a large industrial base - if it isn't a dominant power in world affairs then there's something funny going on.

[AE Bravo]

If they are allowed to make political protests, they will all be religiously-charged ones that bring middle eastern problems to EU. It’s going to drive policy towards mideast and within. There’s a reason you don’t see any of them in the United States.

Pretending like nothing’s wrong is unhealthy, the issues need to be tackled or you’re harboring racism. This seems all too familiar, and people are forgetting the fact that the immigrants have escaped war and countries ripped apart by sectarianism. Good luck if that's how you're going to deal with them. Stop fronting.

[Brenus]

"Technically refugees, in the international sense, are those fleeing persecution rather than those merely fleeing conflict." Nope. You try to create an artificial difference. The Refugee is some one who cross an international border to save his/her life, doesn't matter why: war, persecution, famine, natural disasters (flooding, droughts, etc).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conven...us_of_Refugees

I do remember for Yugoslavia a special status had to be created Internally Displaced Person as Yugoslavia was in theory one state.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

If they are allowed to make political protests, they will all be religiously-charged ones that bring middle eastern problems to EU. It’s going to drive policy towards mideast and within. There’s a reason you don’t see any of them in the United States.

Pretending like nothing’s wrong is unhealthy, the issues need to be tackled or you’re harboring racism. This seems all too familiar, and people are forgetting the fact that the immigrants have escaped war and countries ripped apart by sectarianism. Good luck if that's how you're going to deal with them. Stop fronting.

So...

Don't allow them to protest?

People are very vocal about the fact that they're not happy with the way immigrants behave and that they don't want the sectarian problems of the Middle-East imported but all the immigrants do is cry "racist".

So, now, many countries don't want to have these immigrants here at all.

Now, I recall that you said several pages ago that we should be taking thousands if not tens of thousands of people in per country, you implied we were obligated. So how do you propose we deal with their refusal to integrate?

We're not going to restrict their political or social freedoms any more than the native/assimilated population.

[Fisherking]

So...

Don't allow them to protest?

People are very vocal about the fact that they're not happy with the way immigrants behave and that they don't want the sectarian problems of the Middle-East imported but all the immigrants do is cry "racist".

So, now, many countries don't want to have these immigrants here at all.

Now, I recall that you said several pages ago that we should be taking thousands if not tens of thousands of people in per country, you implied we were obligated. So how do you propose we deal with their refusal to integrate?

We're not going to restrict their political or social freedoms any more than the native/assimilated population.

I am interested in how they are all getting to Europe. It sure is a boom for the human trafficking trade.

Of course Soros says that his organisations are helping. I just wonder exactly how much and in what ways. All these poor people seem to have the thousands of dollars/euro/drachmas etc. to pay passage, with them coming from as far as Afghanistan.

He says borders and national sovereignty are the problem.

We all know what a big heart he has. Funny how all these ultra-rich have such big hearts and a problem with national sovereignty. I guess that is also a problem with rule of law. How very selfless they are. They all seem to be working for a global society and global government.

Weren’t these some of the very people who control the corporations who drafted and negotiated the TPP and several other trade treats said to infringe on national sovereignty?

I suppose it is only coincidental. After all, they are supporters and even the founders of such noble causes as open borders, global warming, free trade treaties, sustainable development, open cities, agenda 21, and agenda 2030. They were the architects of such fabulous democratic institutions like the EU and exert strong influence on the UN.

No, I am sure we are all just fools to question the motives of central bankers and the richest among the corporate elite. It is all humanitarianism and there could not possibly be anything in it for them.

Aren’t they all worthy causes and the global elite seem to be staking all their wealth to bring them to us. Obviously we are just looking a gift horse in the mouth.

I feel much, much, much, much better now. Knowing that all the richest me of the world, who know so very much more what is good for us, are looking out for the wellbeing of humanity and leading us to utopia. Even though they are forced to resort to dystopian methods to achieve it. All just for us. Aren’t we lucky.

[Husar]

Come on, you blame the job creators for this?

Are you saying it's not fair that the nazis, the foreign criminal families that threaten judges, the local criminals who hold foreigners as sex slaves, the Italians who run their mafia here and the bankers who launder terrorist money "cannot be stopped" but when someone uses your grandma's internet connection to download a movie, she is threatened with 30 years in prison? We need to protect the job creators man, when someone uses poor eastern euros as sex slaves by threatening to kill their families if they talk in court, then it does not bother our national interests and there is no need to do anything. The real problem is when someone takes more from the rich than he pays back with interest, that's the kind of behavior we need to stop at all costs because it ruins our democracy.

We need to make sure that the poor (nazis) continue to fight the other poor (immigrants, salafists) before anyone gets the idea that the rich might be the ones making a profit from wage dumping. Let's blame more of our problems on the powerless poor masses!

[AE Bravo]

Now, I recall that you said several pages ago that we should be taking thousands if not tens of thousands of people in per country, you implied we were obligated. So how do you propose we deal with their refusal to integrate?

We're not going to restrict their political or social freedoms any more than the native/assimilated population.

The problem is the Islam you are importing. Every Muslim student association in Europe is funded by the Muslim Brotherhood, while every mosque is controlled by the Saudi clergy and its Shura council. Every Friday sermon and most university gatherings is rightwing Islam.

It’s baffling how people like Frag here overlook this Islamic politics game and just brush aside the whole thing when there’s no other solution besides containing this game yourself like the US has. Your people have done a fine job of colonizing and oppressing the private sphere in the past in other countries, do it on your own turf for once. Time to follow up on your humanitarian-pragmatic game.

Sometimes you need some fox news here and there to ease the process, lefty Islam gon pop up sooner or later. Oh look the UK is doing it already https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quilliam_(think_tank)