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    Look at it for what it is. It is deterrence. It is extreme and unfair but to avoid it they simply don’t go there.
    Just close the borders, is what we all should do, enough is enough

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    Just close the borders, is what we all should do, enough is enough
    Would suck to find out that your holiday has been cancelled because the destination country decided to close the borders. They generally would not get a refund.

    Then there is the economic impact of the tourist industry because they holiday makers are not bringing money into the economy, which mean there are job losses and closures.

    Now you have a bunch of homegrown natives with no money, which means they are now unable to shop, pay bills, contribute to the economy which means further closures and job losses are abound.

    Then if you are a port nation too, it means ships and transports are not able to dock due to being unable to leave the ships, or told to go elsewhere, which ruins imports into the country, forcing supply issues locally which causes prices to rise due to high demand and low supply. Even then if you are landlocked, you closed your borders to foreign supply vehicles and drivers.

    Now you just ruined your countries economy and refugees don't want to go there. Congratulations!
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    You make it sound so complicated, we could travel over Europe just fine with pasports and ID-cards when there were active border-controls. When outsids from Europe, demand a visum. Refugees must ask for asylum in the first safe country they enter. These are migrants not regugees. What 's in Callais aren't refugees either they are migrants as well.

    That eastblock farmhorse Merkel with her messias-complex caused a lot of trouble with changing the rules.
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    You make it sound so complicated, we could travel over Europe just fine with pasports and ID-cards when there were active border-controls. When outsids from Europe, demand a visum. Refugees must ask for asylum in the first safe country they enter. These are migrants not regugees. What 's in Callais aren't refugees either they are migrants as well.

    That eastblock farmhorse Merkel with her messias-complex caused a lot of trouble with changing the rules.
    Hold your horses. Merkel is a politician. Germany is open to receiving refugees because almost every German family has a member or two or four who were refugees at the end of the Second World War. It was very predictable. Just about any German Politician would have done the same.

    Now, why did the migrant crises arise and why did they choose Germany is much more telling.

    We have know for months that NGOs sponsored and created by Soros were funding and encouraging flight from Turkey and other Mid East and Northern African Countries. Much in the same way that child migrants began flooding the US border previously.

    There is also analysis of social media that show most of the recommendations that made Germany the IN Destination came from locations in the US and UK. Only a small percentage, later on, came from Germany its self.

    This was not a spontaneous event. It was an orchestrated and facilitated event, using displaced people as pawns in a political-economic game for power and wealth.

    I don't put it beyond the pale for Merkel to have had foreknowledge but given German politics I don't see how she could have done much else.
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    Anything besides chosing to ignore the Dublin treaty? Unforgivable mistake. Mutti Theresa isn't going to be remembered how she wanted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fisherking View Post
    Hold your horses. Merkel is a politician. Germany is open to receiving refugees because almost every German family has a member or two or four who were refugees at the end of the Second World War. It was very predictable. Just about any German Politician would have done the same.

    Now, why did the migrant crises arise and why did they choose Germany is much more telling.

    We have know for months that NGOs sponsored and created by Soros were funding and encouraging flight from Turkey and other Mid East and Northern African Countries. Much in the same way that child migrants began flooding the US border previously.

    There is also analysis of social media that show most of the recommendations that made Germany the IN Destination came from locations in the US and UK. Only a small percentage, later on, came from Germany its self.

    This was not a spontaneous event. It was an orchestrated and facilitated event, using displaced people as pawns in a political-economic game for power and wealth.

    I don't put it beyond the pale for Merkel to have had foreknowledge but given German politics I don't see how she could have done much else.
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    Afghan migrants set up homeless camp at the site of Paris terror attack memorial to protest against lack of housing

    Afghan asylum-seekers have set up a homeless camp at the site of a prominent Paris terror attack memorial in protest at the lack of migrant housing.

    The migrants have laid down mattresses and blankets at the busy Place de la Republique in Paris, where tens of thousands held a march of solidarity in the wake of the attacks.

    The location of a tribute to those killed on November 13, the area is now been covered in protest signs and debris from the migrants living in the area.



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    Ankle bracelets as an option for curbing terrorism?
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