IMMIGRATION thread

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Rape victims per annum 9/100,000 in Germany reported.

Cologne metro: 1,000,000.
So 90 rape victims per annum in Cologne or .25 rapes per day.

Cologne regions: 10,000,000
So 900 rape victims per annum or 2.5 in the region per day.

1 rape victim is too many. But it is not proven it was a refugee nor does it make a statistical difference against the local background rate.

OK, now calculate for sexual assaults - irrc 80 were reported in one night, one was a rape.

So that's the one rape for four days in the Metro area or 1/90th of the yearly total.

Now - aside from that, what percentage do the 79 sexual assaults represent?

Also, according to the local German police these sexual assault at new year are different to the normal robbings and pick-pockets.

[a completely inoffensive name]

The answer is more unchecked immigration.

[Papewaio]

OK, now calculate for sexual assaults - irrc 80 were reported in one night, one was a rape.

Now - aside from that, what percentage do the 79 sexual assaults represent?

Also, according to the local German police these sexual assault at new year are different to the normal robbings and pick-pockets.

Sexual violence 56.56/100,000 or 566 per year in Cologne metro or 2 a day. So a 40 fold increase for the Metro.
Cologne region 5656 or 20/day.

What percentage of these are local vs refugees?

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

OK, so a 40-fold increase.

That's a big deal.

Reports are the majority of the assaults were committed by groups of Arabs/North Africans.

This is believable because we're talking about young men who have a very different view of what a "proper" woman is who have just escaped a war zone.

[Greyblades]

In this time of buried heads and plugged ears I find it funny that the norwegains are once again ahead of the curb, as instead of denying the existance of the immigrant population's often backwards cultural mores that cause such problems they are actively trying to change it through education.

This doesn't speak against the existence of a rape culture

I would have to disagree. The very idea is an utter fiction; modern British culture is not in any way one that considers blaming rape victims and young men raping as a normal part of life.

To suggest otherwise is utterly anathema to reality; that rape is so frowned upon and the victims so valued that thier word is taken as golden truth by many and any who is accused, once made public, becomes largely unemployable, regardless of truth of claim.

[Montmorency]

the victims so valued that thier word is taken as golden truth by many and any who is accused, once made public, becomes largely unemployable, regardless of truth of claim.

That's completely false, however. In the handful of cases where there is a public furor over some case, it is almost always because a well-connected university student forces it into public attention through publications and rallies. This puts pressure on the university as a corporation and institution, which is why they so often react by quickly shafting one or the other party (whichever is most expedient in the event) and hoping something else captures the public's attention soon. As I have already pointed out, what you are seeing as the ostracization of the accused is actually the volatile reaction of activists eager to "make an example" out of someone. In the wider world, they don't usually face any stigma or professional difficulty predicated upon having been accused of rape, if it even comes up at all.

Meanwhile, rape accusations that come from the countless individuals who don't become an Internet favorite or have the capacity to get a horde of activists on the warpath - those individuals (many male, by the way) have their claims taken about as seriously as a 5-year-old's claim that there is a growling wolf in the basement.

Reorganize your understanding of the issue.

[Greyblades]

That's completely false, however. [...] In the wider world, they don't usually face any stigma or professional difficulty predicated upon having been accused of rape, if it even comes up at all.

No, that is itself false. Those accused are prone to being refused from higher job placments due to companies not wanting to risk a potential controversy of the accusations proving true.
Additionally the friends and family of the accused will never be free of the doubt that "this man I've known for a long time might be a rapist" and those thoughts tear those bonds apart.

Accusations are an everlasting stain socially and professionally. Add that to the fact that those who accuse are automatically treated with the utmost seriousness by the law, as well as a pre-dispostion to belief by onlookers, and I have no idea how you could ever think ours conforms to any definition of rape culture.

Reorganize your understanding of the issue.

I think I prefer it when people tell me to fuck off. Much less intolerably smug than this pretention of accuracy.

[Montmorency]

I think I prefer it when people tell me to fuck off. Much less intolerably smug than this pretention of accuracy.

OK.

Stop making up.

[Beskar]

In this time of buried heads and plugged ears I find it funny that the norwegains are once again ahead of the curb, as instead of denying the existance of the immigrant population's often backwards cultural mores that cause such problems they are actively trying to change it through education.

And this is the way things should be handled, through education and discussion.

[wooly_mammoth]

And this is the way things should be handled, through education and discussion.

Eh, this will sound emotional, but I always get so mad when things like this happen, being a kind-hearted mammoth that wouldn't hurt a daisy and all. I think it's a bit taffing late for education and discussion when an organized throng decides to go stone age on whatever women come at hand. I'm not saying to go full hitler on the animals, but I wouldn't be shy about letting the riot police have an off the record field day on each and every one of those deplorable genetic accidents that believe themselves to be men, followed up by a life of forced labor in the coal mine or something equivalent to that. I guess some form of (preferably painful) castration wouldn't be too extreme a measure in the given circumstances either.

I believe education and discussion should be a part of a human's life in an attempt to avoid this kind of downfall. If you get down into the kind of filth that those men indulged, I don't think you ever get to come out and clean yourself again. You are forever lost to society and simply constitute a danger for those around you.