IMMIGRATION thread

[Myth]

Keep in mind that those exact things were cited when Bulgaria was entering EU.

Yeah? Some UK politicians still repeat this stuff. However, actual ethnic Bulgarians emigrate to work and live a better life. The only ones who beg, steal, pickpocket and prostitute themselves are of a certain ethnic minority and are Bulgarians only by virtue of their identity card. That same minority gives Romanians a similarly bad reputation.

The same minority has its own isolated subculture within any host country and is extremely resistent to integration. Many of them are muslim, preffering to call themselves muslims, turks or anything other than Bulgarian. They don't speak Bulgarian in their day-to-day life either.

On the other hand, many thousands of promising students emigrate to study and work in Germany, Denmark and other more developed countries. Many of our doctors leave their practice here for greener pastures as well. Less educated Bulgarians go to pick oranges, take care of the elderly, work fields or wash dishes but they make it and they do it through honest labour.

So yes, call me racist, but the only one who would deny these facts is someone who has only watched Disney's "The Hunchback of Notre Dame" and thinks Esmeralda is an accurate representative of said minority.

And before someone takes up late Hore Tore's mantle and tells me that we suck because we can't integrate them: the west can't integrate them either. The practice of giving them free welfare and allowing them to parasite on society has done nothing good for them. It's the exact same issue as with the africans who come and create ghettoes in western cities and only go to collect their wellfare checks.

[Sarmatian]

Yeah? Some UK politicians still repeat this stuff. However, actual ethnic Bulgarians emigrate to work and live a better life. The only ones who beg, steal, pickpocket and prostitute themselves are of a certain ethnic minority and are Bulgarians only by virtue of their identity card.

So, No True Scotsman, or in this case, a No True Bulgarian fallacy?

Seen plenty of ethnic Bulgarians involved in begging, stealing, prostitution, organized crime and crime in general. Don't even bother trying to sell that to me.

[Husar]

The real problem is that all these Balkan-people look the same to me.
How am I supposed to tell a Gypsy (aka Sinti and Roma, but I'm being super edgy today ) from a Bulgarian, a Serbian, an Arab, a Persian, an Indian or a North-African?
And then he's probably Pakistani anyway.

I guess that is how the "protectors of the fatherland" (read: Nazis) ended up beating up a 13 year-old tunesian girl instead of actual troublemakers like themselves...

[Gilrandir]

This is the problem with Germans. But Balkaners (e.g. Sarmatian) know an ethnic Bulgarian from an ethnic Albanian/Romanian/Greek/Macedonean/Gypsy/Turk at first sight.

[Fragony]

The real problem is that all these Balkan-people look the same to me.
How am I supposed to tell a Gypsy (aka Sinti and Roma, but I'm being super edgy today ) from a Bulgarian, a Serbian, an Arab, a Persian, an Indian or a North-African?
And then he's probably Pakistani anyway.

I guess that is how the "protectors of the fatherland" (read: Nazis) ended up beating up a 13 year-old tunesian girl instead of actual troublemakers like themselves...

That is pretty easy for me, I see it immediatly, features vary

[Viking]

Latest official report:

Cologne attackers were of migrant origin - minister

Nineteen individuals are currently under investigation by the state police in connection with the attacks, NRW's interior ministry says in a report (in German), none of them German nationals.

Those 19 suspects include 14 men from Morocco and Algeria. Ten of the suspects are asylum seekers, nine of whom arrived in Germany after September 2015.

The other nine are possibly in Germany illegally, the interior ministry says.

Monday's report into the attacks in Cologne says that the combination of group sexual violence with robbery had not previously been seen in Germany.

It notes that similar crimes took place in other parts of Germany on the 31 December, including in Hamburg.

The report describes a modus operandi known as "taharrush gamea" in Arabic, meaning group sexual harassment in crowds, and compares it to incidents reported in Cairo's Tahrir Square at the time of the Egyptian revolution.

[Sarmatian]

The real problem is that all these Balkan-people look the same to me.
How am I supposed to tell a Gypsy (aka Sinti and Roma, but I'm being super edgy today ) from a Bulgarian, a Serbian, an Arab, a Persian, an Indian or a North-African?
And then he's probably Pakistani anyway.

The good looking ones are Serbs.