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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Can anyone fill me in on who the childless mutti is/are? Is Frag referring to Merkel, or the migrants?
    Merkel of course, it's a public secret that she has a messias-complex. Everything will be ok if everybody prays. Her own party even had enough of her. 'little children' is a reference to what Jezus said.

    edit, what did I just say, 30 minutes later http://www.usnews.com/news/world/art...-over-migrants


    And yes it's the same party just not in name. Talk about an untergang of a chancellor
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    I don't know what his opinion is so it's impossible to disregard it. But redicule and insinuation is the most noticable weakness of an artful dodger if you are just being reasonable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    It's useless arguing with Husar because he sees national borders as superfluous.

    His opinion should be disregarded.

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    The problem with Husar is he'll spend literally pages beating at the same rhetorical joke for his own amusement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I did 't say it were mostly north-africans, I said north-africans had a minor role. Your mind is playing tricks on you, you see things that aren't there, look again and blink. Blink, you must
    No, you didn't, you said they were mostly childless muttis of the refugees with squirrels, then again you never source any of what you say, claiming to rely on super great blogs everyone should find themselves. My blogs say your blogs are wrong though and I know my blogs are better, go look for them if you want to know why. But you can't see what there is not to see with open but closed eyes if your mind is not in the zone of what there is to see with the truth on a silver platter that is really just rotten to the core of what there is not to see because it cannot but must and that is too much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    No, you didn't, you said they were mostly childless muttis of the refugees with squirrels, then again you never source any of what you say, claiming to rely on super great blogs everyone should find themselves. My blogs say your blogs are wrong though and I know my blogs are better, go look for them if you want to know why. But you can't see what there is not to see with open but closed eyes if your mind is not in the zone of what there is to see with the truth on a silver platter that is really just rotten to the core of what there is not to see because it cannot but must and that is too much.
    But of course Hussie. Put on your wizard-hat take your magic wand and cast rediculus. Joke's on you though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    of course Hussie
    Knew it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Knew it.
    Of course you do. It's simple, stating facts is a waste of time for a brain that can't proces them. The cognitive dissonation is too strong. Everything I said turned out to be true no, I am just a little faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    The problem with Husar is he'll spend literally pages beating at the same rhetorical joke for his own amusement.
    This is true, but over the years I've found that it's really the problem with all of you Backroom regulars. Strike has mentioned a similar sentiment - I know all your flaws too well, and there are fewer and fewer opportunities to absorb anything new.

    Of course, I can't have you killed for outliving your usefulness because I have no killers and I have noone to replace you with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    This is true, but over the years I've found that it's really the problem with all of you Backroom regulars. Strike has mentioned a similar sentiment - I know all your flaws too well, and there are fewer and fewer opportunities to absorb anything new.

    Of course, I can't have you killed for outliving your usefulness because I have no killers and I have noone to replace you with.
    The solution to this is to reroute all the migrants to the Backroom. They can live in the Org cloud, or something.
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    If someone cannot be reasoned with because he repeatedly misreads, makes hardly readable statements and repeats the same things over and over, I figure I might as well have some fun.


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    A lack of self awareness seems to be another common problem here.
    Being better than the worst does not inherently make you good. But being better than the rest lets you brag.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    If someone cannot be reasoned with because he repeatedly misreads, makes hardly readable statements and repeats the same things over and over, I figure I might as well have some fun.
    But you aren't having fun, a screen won't stop my senses. Do I need a link for that as well
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    You know, just once I'd like to see all of you high and mighty be in a situation where your family or your life is threatened and you're forced to leave for some far off land. To travel through sun and rain and snow, to deal with smugglers, robbers, corrupt officials. To be herded like cattle in a fenced off area when you finally arrive. To be subject to contempt and disdain, to threats and physical and mental abuse. And not because you did something to offend someone, purely because you look different or talk differently. No rational reason, just fear, pettiness, ignorance, parochialism.

    And trust me, you have no idea how quickly shit can hit the fan.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    You know, just once I'd like to see all of you high and mighty be in a situation where your family or your life is threatened and you're forced to leave for some far off land. To travel through sun and rain and snow, to deal with smugglers, robbers, corrupt officials. To be herded like cattle in a fenced off area when you finally arrive. To be subject to contempt and disdain, to threats and physical and mental abuse. And not because you did something to offend someone, purely because you look different or talk differently. No rational reason, just fear, pettiness, ignorance, parochialism.

    And trust me, you have no idea how quickly shit can hit the fan.
    And mass sexual assault. This 16 year old girl has something to say to islamapoligists, movie is on top http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven....html#comments

    Yeah darling. German men, where are you. Protect your women ffs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    You know, just once I'd like to see all of you high and mighty be in a situation where your family or your life is threatened and you're forced to leave for some far off land. To travel through sun and rain and snow, to deal with smugglers, robbers, corrupt officials. To be herded like cattle in a fenced off area when you finally arrive. To be subject to contempt and disdain, to threats and physical and mental abuse. And not because you did something to offend someone, purely because you look different or talk differently. No rational reason, just fear, pettiness, ignorance, parochialism.

    And trust me, you have no idea how quickly shit can hit the fan.
    And this life knowledge you apparantly have translates into "we should approve of having foreign people walk into our country en mass"... how exactly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    And mass sexual assault. This 16 year old girl has something to say to islamapoligists, movie is on top http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven....html#comments

    Yeah darling. German men, where are you. Protect your women ffs
    Youtube videos? Really? Is that the standard now?



    Look, they're playing football here.

    Oh, and btw, that little brat was the kind of person I had in mind when I wrote the previous post.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    And this life knowledge you apparantly have translates into "we should approve of having foreign people walk into our country en mass"... how exactly?
    No. You should be petty little bigots. It will probably work out well. Then again, there may be a delicious piece of irony, where you or someone important to you will need help and no one will do anything because it's not their problem. Who knows what the future holds...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    This is true, but over the years I've found that it's really the problem with all of you Backroom regulars. Strike has mentioned a similar sentiment - I know all your flaws too well, and there are fewer and fewer opportunities to absorb anything new.

    Of course, I can't have you killed for outliving your usefulness because I have no killers and I have noone to replace you with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    No. You should be petty little bigots. It will probably work out well. Then again, there may be a delicious piece of irony, where you or someone important to you will need help and no one will do anything because it's not their problem. Who knows what the future holds...
    Apparantly not wanting to freely let into my country a group of people who have been proven to cause crime increases and major security risks means I'm a bigot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    And mass sexual assault. This 16 year old girl has something to say to islamapoligists, movie is on top http://www.geenstijl.nl/mt/archieven....html#comments

    Yeah darling. German men, where are you. Protect your women ffs
    Nazi videos, great! I'm totally behind you now!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Nazi videos, great! I'm totally behind you now!
    Does that girl look like a nazi to you, reeeefleeeex

    lower video comes with a disclaimer, should have mentioned that, lower video is just for article's sake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    You know, just once I'd like to see all of you high and mighty be in a situation where your family or your life is threatened and you're forced to leave for some far off land. To travel through sun and rain and snow, to deal with smugglers, robbers, corrupt officials.
    Censured.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    To be herded like cattle in a fenced off area when you finally arrive. To be subject to contempt and disdain, to threats and physical and mental abuse. And not because you did something to offend someone, purely because you look different or talk differently. No rational reason, just fear, pettiness, ignorance, parochialism.
    You forgot to mention what you censured. (Some) refugees at that point start to behave as if they are entitled to choose the country that can harbor them from snow, rain, corrupt officials etc. and abuse the laws of the country they came to and later of the country they were heading to. And it becomes a rational reason for fear, pettiness, ignorance and parochialism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    All so I can stab a woman
    That is your argument? That there are criminals among them? Yes, there are. There's more than a million of them. It is safe to say that there are terrorist among them, pedophiles, doctors, pacifists. Maybe there's a new mafia boss in there but maybe there's a new Messi, or a new Mother Theresa, a doctor, a fraudulent investment banker...

    Take a million of Americans, Brits, Brazilians, Chinese and there will be criminals and murderers among them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Apparantly not wanting to freely let into my country a group of people who have been proven to cause crime increases and major security risks means I'm a bigot.
    Not a bigot, a petty little bigot.

    A glorified spoiled brat, with some malicious thoughts and delusions of grandeur. Fragony is a bigot. You'd have to improve to become one.

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    If I am a bigot than so are the childles mutti's own party-members, who to put it mildly, don't exactly agree with her immigration policy. I have always been a bigot youknow, the people who called me one are now harsher than I have ever been. Such a shame that Fortuyn was murdered, he could have been our Farrage.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    You know, just once I'd like to see all of you high and mighty be in a situation where your family or your life is threatened and you're forced to leave for some far off land. To travel through sun and rain and snow, to deal with smugglers, robbers, corrupt officials. To be herded like cattle in a fenced off area when you finally arrive. To be subject to contempt and disdain, to threats and physical and mental abuse. And not because you did something to offend someone, purely because you look different or talk differently. No rational reason, just fear, pettiness, ignorance, parochialism.

    And trust me, you have no idea how quickly shit can hit the fan.
    Yeah? Families, fleeing, the same old sob story:

    "In Europe, over 800,000 migrants have traveled to Europe by sea in 2015, according to the United Nations refugee agency, and a little over half have come from Syria. About 62% of all migrants that have traveled to Europe this year, however, are men. A little under a quarter, 22%, are children and only 16% are women."

    Turns out that more than half are men. Removing the syrians from the equasion (where there is an actual legitimate reason for people to flee), you are left with Algerians, Morrocans, tunisians, Afghans and the like. And most of those are men.

    Are they peaceful, humble men who keep a low profile and are grateful for the asylum they've been given? No. They organize themselves in barbaric throngs and harrass and rape western women. The more vocal ones who speak english go and protest, demanding sharia law, halal meat in the cafeterias and burqas for the women so they don't disrupt their delicate self control.

    If you remove the rapes and murders commited by ethnic minorities and immigrants in Sweden, you would get a drastiaclly different picture. Heck, just remove Malmo and the equasion is different.

    Who were the gropers and assaulters on NYE in Cologne? Were they nazis? Skinheads? Proud aryan men preying on their own women? No. They were "migrants" and second and third generation "migrants" who have not integrated into their host society but instead cause trouble without providing anything meaningful in return.

    It's about time liberals stopped tip toeing around race and religon issues and start calling things as they are.
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    Who were the gropers and assaulters on NYE in Cologne? Were they nazis? Skinheads? Proud aryan men preying on their own women? No.
    In case you haven't noticed, the left says yes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    In case you haven't noticed, the left says yes.
    Not that I heard they do but the political correct never fail to make a circle-reasoning that would shame a F5 tornado

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    Does that girl look like a nazi to you, reeeefleeeex
    "I had a bad experience when I left the home ONCE" -> "Why did you RUIN the country?" -> "I'm not against other people, they just RUIN THE COUNTRY" -> Nazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    If I am a bigot than so are the childles mutti's own party-members, who to put it mildly, don't exactly agree with her immigration policy.
    So she should fire them all or step down for being a bad leader according to what I learned here. I may cry about the fact that she doesn't at night.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    I have always been a bigot youknow, the people who called me one are now harsher than I have ever been.
    I don't recall the last time you did anything other than complain, that you are harsh implies that you ever proposed a solution, no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Turns out that more than half are men. Removing the syrians from the equasion (where there is an actual legitimate reason for people to flee), you are left with Algerians, Morrocans, tunisians, Afghans and the like. And most of those are men.
    And what percentage is left when you remove the Syrians from the equation? Do you remove the ones with fake Syrian passports as well and how?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Are they peaceful, humble men who keep a low profile and are grateful for the asylum they've been given? No.
    Where is this "100% of the men are not peaceful"-statistic coming from?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    They organize themselves in barbaric throngs and harrass and rape western women.
    I think Goebbels would have been proud of that rhetoric. What exactly is it based on and where is the proof that all these men do that?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    The more vocal ones who speak english go and protest, demanding sharia law, halal meat in the cafeterias and burqas for the women so they don't disrupt their delicate self control.
    Where is the "100% of male immigrants in Germany who speak English demand shariah law"-statistic coming from again? Or are we talking about something else by now?

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    If you remove the rapes and murders commited by ethnic minorities and immigrants in Sweden, you would get a drastiaclly different picture. Heck, just remove Malmo and the equasion is different.
    Oh, Sweden again, just pick the extreme to prove that the opposite extreme is the only way.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Who were the gropers and assaulters on NYE in Cologne? Were they nazis? Skinheads? Proud aryan men preying on their own women? No.
    Of course not, they were busy beating up 13 year-old girls, jamaicans and other immigrants who do not show up in "barbaric throngs" as you call them because even our brave neo nazis cannot be expected to beat up people who could fight back.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    They were "migrants" and second and third generation "migrants" who have not integrated into their host society but instead cause trouble without providing anything meaningful in return.
    You usually have a hard time to integrate into something that views you as a "barbaric throng" as soon as you show up with friends.
    And maybe our integration policies are terrible, but we should also blame that on all the people who came here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    It's about time liberals stopped tip toeing around race and religon issues and start calling things as they are.
    Who are these liberals and what are their religion issues? You mean all the people who kept whining about islam since 9/11 were liberals? And how are things anyway?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Fragony View Post
    If I am a bigot than so are the childles mutti's own party-members, who to put it mildly, don't exactly agree with her immigration policy.
    It is possible to disagree with immigration and not be a bigot.

    I have always been a bigot youknow,
    No you weren't. You had a very tough stance on immigration, but you weren't always a bigot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Myth View Post
    Yeah? Families, fleeing, the same old sob story:

    "In Europe, over 800,000 migrants have traveled to Europe by sea in 2015, according to the United Nations refugee agency, and a little over half have come from Syria. About 62% of all migrants that have traveled to Europe this year, however, are men. A little under a quarter, 22%, are children and only 16% are women."
    So? It is quite normal for men to travel ahead of the their families, especially if the road is hard and dangerous. Once they get set up, they arrange a safe transport of their families.

    And what has that got to do with anything? If it were 40% men, you would've been ok with it?
    Removing the syrians from the equasion (where there is an actual legitimate reason for people to flee), you are left with Algerians, Morrocans, tunisians, Afghans and the like. And most of those are men.
    Really? You think Afghanistan is safe?
    What about Iraq?

    Are they peaceful, humble men who keep a low profile and are grateful for the asylum they've been given? No. They organize themselves in barbaric throngs and harrass and rape western women. The more vocal ones who speak english go and protest, demanding sharia law, halal meat in the cafeterias and burqas for the women so they don't disrupt their delicate self control.
    Really? Cologne again? First hand knowledge from Facebook? So far two perpetrators have been identified, and neither is a refugee. And they're being charged with stealing cameras from the store. Let's wait a bit before we assign blame.

    If you remove the rapes and murders commited by ethnic minorities and immigrants in Sweden, you would get a drastiaclly different picture. Heck, just remove Malmo and the equasion is different.
    Really? Then how come Scotland has higher rates of violent crimes than England, and much less immigrants?

    In general, if you had bother to look, you would see that it is connected again with poverty. Rich Muslim countries tend to have extremely low rates of violent crimes.

    It's about poverty, not race or religion.

    Who were the gropers and assaulters on NYE in Cologne? Were they nazis? Skinheads? Proud aryan men preying on their own women? No. They were "migrants" and second and third generation "migrants" who have not integrated into their host society but instead cause trouble without providing anything meaningful in return.
    Let's wait on that. So far, we have social network hysteria and little else to go on.

    It's about time liberals stopped tip toeing around race and religon issues and start calling things as they are.
    I don't think I've been tip toeing at all.

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    How am I a bigot then, you never say why. Not that I really care or am offended but the forum-rules are pretty clear on personal attacks. It's silly because you know nothing about me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarmatian View Post
    So? It is quite normal for men to travel ahead of the their families, especially if the road is hard and dangerous. Once they get set up, they arrange a safe transport of their families.

    And what has that got to do with anything? If it were 40% men, you would've been ok with it?
    In England during WWII, 100% (or near enough) of evacuees were women and children.

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