IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

We are doing something about it: we're not letting them in.

http://www.thenation.com/article/eur...ve-punishment/

Aspiring to the old days of empire building, slave trade and collective punishment again. And this from the people who claim their bill of rights and stuff were groundbreaking in enlightenment and human rights matters.

[Greyblades]

Empire buidling? Slave trade? I cant wait to hear how you explain how either of those are applicable. I'm sure it'll be as convincing as your assertaition of collective punishment, something that, as far as I know, has happened on your side of the channel not mine.


The one who caused this mess, by opening the borders and inviting them in, was Germany not Britain. Any responsibility laid at our feet for this would be better laid at your own.

[Montmorency]

The one who caused this mess, by opening the borders and inviting them in, was Germany not Britain. Any responsibility laid at our feet for this would be better laid at your own.

This is one of the most pernicious misconceptions in the situation. The problem reached its current level long before any public "invitations" were made, and the borders were opened decades ago; it is only over the past half-year that they have been growing more closed.

[Greyblades]

Actually I was not referring to any official invitation, the schengen agreement itself is an open invitation to any who seeks anywhere between a place to build a better life to a chance at a free lunch.

Internal open borders with some of the worlds greatest welfare states and an external border more porous than swiss cheese (hyperbole), it is a wonder this level of abuse took so long to occur.

[Fragony]

This is one of the most pernicious misconceptions in the situation. The problem reached its current level long before any public "invitations" were made, and the borders were opened decades ago; it is only over the past half-year that they have been growing more closed.

That is simply not true, immigrants from north africa yes, but from the middle-east no. It's because Merkel decided to pubicly ignore the Dublin-treaty.