IMMIGRATION thread

[Greyblades]

If they are "our" smugglers, they are as much our responsibility as the terrorists are the refugees' responsibility.

At best it is our responsibility to stop them, and that is it, it doesnt mean we are responsible for thier appearance.

You also have an economic downturn if your demographics go bottom up, Sarmatian already covered that.

A predicted issue that is not affecting us now but which we were happily solving by having a controlled influx of various eastern europeans.

Letting in the muslim horde right now would lead to problems much more immediate and severe than an aging population.

Indeed, your country only messed up the creation of their nation states

I dare say the people who did that are all dead by now.

and caused a large chunk of the current mess in the first place. Who invaded Iraq again? Not us.

Who let thier country turn into an islamic extremist hellhole despite us giving them ample resources and training to prevent it? Not us.

And Pannonian did argue not to let them in because of terrorist attacks, no? Is he French now? Didn't you basically say the same thing? Oh wait, you just did.

Did I deny agreeing with him? Did you prove him wrong? Am I Pannonian now?

What the governments do was not part of my argument, I was commenting on your arguments.

If we arent talking about governments then this whole thing falls apart. I can only be considered responsible for the last year and a half of british foreign policy, and extremely tangentally at that.

We let them in, didn't we?

I was reffering to the greeks not the immigrants.

You're taking away their right to flee to a safer place, their freedom of movement. You know, the one they had before you told them to stay and wait until ISIS come to behead them. If you are not going to help anyone in need because you are afraid that they may destroy your good christian values, I'd advise you to check your christians values again.

They were safe in turkey, moving on from there was their decision and freedom of transit is not a human right.