IMMIGRATION thread

**Fragony** · 02-03-2016, 09:48

Originally Posted by Snowhobbit

I think I'll take the view of the court interpretator before your friends analysis of a picture though

Of course so do I. He is rather defensive about his people upto the unreasonable, he will excuse anything. Not a bad guy, goes to church every sunday, really polite, but nothing can be the fault of Somali's for him, always someone else. But I can see that that guy is not 15 at least, that I am sure of, his identity is faked.

**Snowhobbit** · 02-03-2016, 10:00

Originally Posted by Fragony

Of course so do I. He is rather defensive about his people upto the unreasonable, he will excuse anything. Not a bad guy, goes to church every sunday, really polite, but nothing can be the fault of Somali's for him, always someone else. But I can see that that guy is not 15 at least, that I am sure of, his identity is faked.

He does not have an identity. The court documents clearly state that he has not proven his identity in Sweden. Of course group-think can lead to defensiveness up to the point of outright denial, I can certainly see why someone would want to distance themself from this "child".

**Fragony** · 02-03-2016, 11:36

Originally Posted by Snowhobbit

He does not have an identity. The court documents clearly state that he has not proven his identity in Sweden. Of course group-think can lead to defensiveness up to the point of outright denial, I can certainly see why someone would want to distance themself from this "child".

I understand that. It's kinda tragic he wears his Dutch pasport as a batch. People who think the Netherlands is an open-minded society are deeply mistaken, he will never be one of 'us' no matter how hard he tries. It's even in our language, autochtoon (native Dutch) and allochtoon (not white, exception for people from former colonies)

**Snowhobbit** · 02-03-2016, 12:30

Originally Posted by Fragony

I understand that. It's kinda tragic he wears his Dutch pasport as a batch. People who think the Netherlands is an open-minded society are deeply mistaken, he will never be one of 'us' no matter how hard he tries. It's even in our language, autochtoon (native Dutch) and allochtoon (not white, exception for people from former colonies)

That is a bit sad frankly. What about his kids? What if he had kids with an autochtoon? I'm surprised that Netherlands has not moved on from their colonial history in their language.

Originally Posted by Pannonian

PFH was joking. The ultimate clue can be seen in the pre-Christian Sweden part.

Smiley faces are conducive to making sure jokes are understood as such. And given his views in other threads I don't see why that post can't be taken at face value. Certainly there are people who think like that.

**Husar** · 02-03-2016, 12:50

Originally Posted by Fragony

I understand that. It's kinda tragic he wears his Dutch pasport as a batch. People who think the Netherlands is an open-minded society are deeply mistaken, he will never be one of 'us' no matter how hard he tries. It's even in our language, autochtoon (native Dutch) and allochtoon (not white, exception for people from former colonies)

Actually, it sounds like your language is just full of immigrants as well, because this one is Greek and we have it as well, just not used much outside academical contexts here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoch...ncient_Greece)

Don't even try to say that it's a native dutch word because you changed two letters.

Originally Posted by Pannonian

PFH was joking. The ultimate clue can be seen in the pre-Christian Sweden part.

Can't be! He just cannot not put a smiley or another overly obvious clue there and expect anyone here to get it!

Originally Posted by Snowhobbit

That is a bit sad frankly. What about his kids? What if he had kids with an autochtoon? I'm surprised that Netherlands has not moved on from their colonial history in their language.

In a land far, far away, a people once made a chart for that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial...mberg_laws.jpg

**Snowhobbit** · 02-03-2016, 13:03

Originally Posted by Husar

In a land far, far away, a people once made a chart for that:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial...mberg_laws.jpg

Well it is awful generous of the to let the half-bloods mix with the pure-bloods... Well well, there were better things coming out of Nuremberg before the 50s anyway.

**Fragony** · 02-03-2016, 13:27

Originally Posted by Husar

Actually, it sounds like your language is just full of immigrants as well, because this one is Greek and we have it as well, just not used much outside academical contexts here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autoch...ncient_Greece)

Don't even try to say that it's a native dutch word because you changed two letters.

In Greece it's antipolis I think but I'm not sure if that's right, wiki can be wrong. That is more a matter of citizinship though, not a destinction like autochtoon and allochtoon. I could be wrong.

**Husar** · 02-03-2016, 14:30

Originally Posted by Fragony

In Greece it's antipolis I think but I'm not sure if that's right, wiki can be wrong. That is more a matter of citizinship though, not a destinction like autochtoon and allochtoon. I could be wrong.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/autochthon

http://www.oxforddictionaries.com/de...sch/autochthon

An original or indigenous inhabitant of a place; an aborigine.
[...]
Late 16th century: from Greek, literally 'sprung from the earth', from autos 'self' + khthōn 'earth, soil'.

Of course the dictionaries could be wrong, too. And maybe you don't even exist.