IMMIGRATION thread

[Viking]

It is a short term solution, but it a solution. You can't raise pension age by 5-10 years immediately and expect no backlash. You can raise it little by little over the next several decades. Bottom line - there is no other way at the moment. You can argue that the backlash won't be that significant it might be better to ride out the storm (with which I disagree), no political establishment will consider it, so it is moot.

It can solve the problem with age distribution in the short term, yes; and that's indeed as far as the agreement goes.

So why go there? If there's a global catastrophe that threatens world's ability to produce food, we're screwed, 50,000 Muslims more or less in a specific country.

The context is the sub-debate that didn't go anywhere; e.g. mass-migration over a century or two.

We're talking realistic solution for our age.

So am I, the parenthesis was for accuracy's sake (various forms of anti-aging treatments could very much be relevant for this topic in some decades from now on; so as far as prediction goes, it shouldn't be left out).

It also happens to be the least populated, most out of the way place in Europe, with the worst climate.

Denmark isn't particularly "out of the way", but it didn't get the ethnic division like e.g. "out of the way" Northern Ireland has, introduced.

That kind of flies in the face of every single civil liberty and human right, like presumption of innocence.

Too bad. It's not about anyone's guilt or innocence, but what is actually happening: what the actual consequences of the migration are. I am indifferent to lofty ideals in that context.

It also defies logic to claim there is a a serious threat when there have been a few dozen, or even hundreds, a European Muslim terrorists out of a population of 50 000 000.

Depends on what you mean by "serious threat". It's smart to use a seat belt, but you can drive a car your entire life without really needing it; it depends highly on your luck. Likewise with terrorist attacks.

No one would even think about it, because, it's us .

That's also why the comparison fails. The hypothetical immigration scenario would be roughly similar to simply increase the native population through higher fertility rates. Immigration from countries with radically different cultures, would not be.