About what exactly?Originally Posted by Strike For The South
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
About what exactly?
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
That it's insane perhaps? Most aren't even refugees. A lot of rapefugees though, as anyone living near a 'refugee-camp' can tell you.
Last edited by Fragony; 02-19-2016 at 15:10.
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Since the UK (and Ireland) aren't part of Schengen, we still have our border controls, and we are under no obligation to accept anyone unless we choose to. I darn well hope we don't choose to. Anyone wishing to enter the UK can come via the usual channels, or else face getting chucked back or a reasonable approximation thereof.
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Aye until Mutti decides to give them all German passports! Next stop London.
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Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Mother Europe is in danger. Unwashed brown barbarians are coming...
I love you guys. About 90% of you fall under entitled brats with no clue about life. And 2/3 of those 90% are bigots and chauvinists.
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Is this a bigot or just an ordinary woman who says how things are https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5RifrDfElo
Mother Europe is in danger. Unwashed brown barbarians are coming...
I love you guys. About 90% of you fall under entitled brats with no clue about life. And 2/3 of those 90% are bigots and chauvinists.
Let's not even start about the predatory behaviour in Germany and Sweden. Must say that the problems are pretty small here in the Netherlands
Last edited by Fragony; 02-19-2016 at 17:20.
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Says the one advocating for entitlements for brats with no clue about european life.
Last edited by Greyblades; 02-19-2016 at 17:24.
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Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
You picked a Polish magazine cover to make your point. Need I say more? Poland, as well as Hungary, is run by politicians that make the Marseille branch of the Front National look like bleeding heart liberals.
Mother Europe is in danger. Unwashed brown barbarians are coming...
I love you guys. About 90% of you fall under entitled brats with no clue about life. And 2/3 of those 90% are bigots and chauvinists.
Maybe the public opinion in Serbia is more positive about foreigners? So far Serbia's role seems to be limited to providing cab and bus transport for those en route to Germany, anyway.
Last edited by Kralizec; 02-19-2016 at 17:28.
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
"Atheists are free to disagree I guess." Only about the bases of your sentence. I don't need a big man on a cloud to be human.
I shall pass on the French comment that shows how much clues our USA friend has in understanding France, so to say Europe. As much as I know, all countries have de facto laws on clothing, under various reasons i.e. decency, safety, and all the catalogue.
So is it Europe responsibility? Some could say that with economical treaties imposed to others countries Europe is creating the economical refugees, with the civilisation and capitalistic mode based on consumption Europe creates the conditions of climate changes which will put populations on move, due to desertification, droughts, raising of seas levels etc... How many flooding in Bangladesh before the inhabitants decide that too much is too much.
We do as well attack a lot of others countries, deciding for them how to behave, then creating all the conditions for warlords to come and to put populations in the move.
So, no, it is not Europe responsibility to welcome refugees. It is Europe responsibility to stop its participation in creating refugees.
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Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Dang it, I was unaware that we were all collectively the editor of that magazine. Did you bother to read the posts at all?
Mother Europe is in danger. Unwashed brown barbarians are coming...
I love you guys. About 90% of you fall under entitled brats with no clue about life. And 2/3 of those 90% are bigots and chauvinists.
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
It wasn't supposed to convince you.
And what were you right about?
Nah. We tend to butcher those guys with rusty spoons anyway. Did we ever get a thanks for it? No.
Actually, there are still a few guys right there in Netherlands who are very good at it. If sending the refugees back is too big a problem, just let those guys loose. They'll take care of everything.
Last edited by Sarmatian; 02-19-2016 at 21:28.
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
No country has an obligation to take in migrants in general.
True refugees make up a minority of the people we're talking about. It's been that way in the past, and it's true now even though the numbers are much bigger. I read a good article a few months ago behind the logistics and economics of human trafficking. I forgot most of the details, but it listed several reasons why an increase in legitimate refugees (i.e. Syrians and Eritreans) also leads to an increase of people who migrate for purely economic reasons. People who have understandable reasons for trying (if you lived in a third world country, wouldn't you like to move to Germany or the UK?) but who have no reasonable claim for asylum.
Multiple ideas have been put forward in which Turkey would put more effort in preventing human trafficking across the sea and, in return, European countries would take in a fixed number of genuine refugees every year, until the Syrian conflict has ended. Turkey would also receive some financial compensation for this scheme. This would be great if it could be made to work but...it's Turkey we're talking about.
As for frau Merkel: I also think that the particular speech she's been criticized so much for was ill-conceived, but mostly because of the predictable political backlash. I don't buy the assertion that one speech will suddenly cause millions of people to pack their bags. There was a huge spike of migrants shortly afterwards, but most of those people would have been on the move for weeks before that. On the other hand, David Cameron isn't known for lofty welcome speeches but people are still trying to cross the canal tunnel in droves. What does that tell you?
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Because it is our responsibility as christian nations:
http://www.gotquestions.org/Bible-responsibility.htmlSimply put, our responsibility lies in working for the Lord, whether it is in “looking after orphans or widows in distress” (James 1:27), giving to the hungry, the naked, visiting those in prison (see Matthew 25:35-36), serving in our workplace (see Colossians 3:22), or doing whatever we do (Colossians 3:23). And our motivation is that we have God’s own promise that our work “is not in vain” in the Lord “since you know that you will receive an inheritance from the Lord as a reward. It is the Lord Christ you are serving” (Colossians 3:24).
Atheists are free to disagree I guess.
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Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Tbe answer is simple; Weed out the migrants from the refugees and send the migrants home, at gunpoint if need be. The unattached ablebodied refugees we lump on the surrounding muslim countries, the rest we stick in local refugee camps until Assad wins and we can send them home.
The problem is that a lot of the european governments are filled with people who are either too invested in or deluded about the current situation to do what needs to be done.
Last edited by Greyblades; 02-19-2016 at 16:31.
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Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
Was this in the manifesto of the party that won the last General Election?
Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?
As an atheist I would not disagree.
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