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    Headless Senior Member Pannonian's Avatar
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    Default Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by wooly_mammoth View Post
    ^To the above I would add an obligation for the refugees to integrate in the country in which they are settled, i.e. respect the local laws and customs, learn the local language, get a job or stick to whatever the integration services find for them, send their children to school. People who fail the above points should get a one-way ticket back to whatever miserable place they ran from and be banned from ever entering the E.U. again.
    Hang on. Doesn't this infringe the human rights of these refugees/migrants to travel to wherever they wish?

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    Default Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Hang on. Doesn't this infringe the human rights of these refugees/migrants to travel to wherever they wish?
    It doesn't have to if it is an agreement. You wanna stay, you've gotta accept those terms for a defined period of time.

    We all have guaranteed freedom of movement, but that doesn't forbid our employers to keep us at our workplace for 8 hours a day.

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    Default Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?

    Actually it's Europol, not Interpol, just saying.


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    Default Re: Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?

    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Hang on. Doesn't this infringe the human rights of these refugees/migrants to travel to wherever they wish?
    As far as I know every country in the world has the right to deny entrance to foreigners deemed undesirable for reasons like terrorist activities. If you want to travel to a country that requires a visa and they have a half-decent secret service, if they discover you were taking courses on how to detonate yourself in crowded places back in your youth, that's constitutes a pretty strong reason to deny your request.

    Something like that should clearly be extended to asylum-seekers. The country where you are seeking refuge is making you a favor and giving you a chance at a better life, helping you integrate in a better society than the one you left behind on the expense of the people living there. If you cannot respect that and the responsibilities it implies and you go around harassing the locals, molesting women and other such horrible things, then there's no reason in the world why you shouldn't be kicked out and banned from ever entering again in that country. If the country happens to be in the EU, where there's a broad range of customs and laws shared among the member states, there's no reason not to make the interdiction EU-wide. No need to exhibit your primitive limitations in front of others yet again, with the same result.

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