IMMIGRATION thread

[Fragony]

No, Interpol estimates that there "could be up to 5000" of them in Europe.

While a few lines down there's this info

Left it open-ended enough

[Gilrandir]

While a few lines down there's this info
There is no concrete evidence terrorists are systematically using of the flow of refugees to infiltrate Europe

They come to Europe by the backdoor - through the German parliament:
http://www.dw.com/en/ex-terrorist-be...poll/a-2510817

[Fragony]

They come to Europe by the backdoor - through the German parliament:
http://www.dw.com/en/ex-terrorist-be...poll/a-2510817

Red Army Fraction, caused a lot of trouble in Germany. Some are still active in the antifacist(lol) movements. Different thing though. But it's incredibly naive to think IS wouldn't cease the oppertunity of letting jihadi's travel among the migrants. A fake identity can easily be bought in Turkey, costs a few thousands to get a fake ID that is a perfect copy of a real one. Refugees don't have the money for that but IS does. The Turkish maffa and IS don't make a secret out of it that it works that way.

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

Red Army Fraction, caused a lot of trouble in Germany. Some are still active in the antifacist(lol) movements. Different thing though. But it's incredibly naive to think IS wouldn't cease the oppertunity of letting jihadi's travel among the migrants. A fake identity can easily be bought in Turkey, costs a few thousands to get a fake ID that is a perfect copy of a real one. Refugees don't have the money for that but IS does. The Turkish maffa and IS don't make a secret out of it that it works that way.

...which is all just conjecture. Let's just ignore that the terrorists in Paris, for example, were EU citizens - ie there is no evidence AT ALL that terrorists are sneaking in among the refugees.

I do wonder what purpose EUROPOL thought there was in issuing a statement regarding how many numbers of terrorists MIGHT be entering Europe...without any evidence at all....doesn't sound like particularly competent police work. In fact it sounds a lot like simple 'racial profiling'...

[Fragony]

...which is all just conjecture. Let's just ignore that the terrorists in Paris, for example, were EU citizens - ie there is no evidence AT ALL that terrorists are sneaking in among the refugees.

I do wonder what purpose EUROPOL thought there was in issuing a statement regarding how many numbers of terrorists MIGHT be entering Europe...without any evidence at all....doesn't sound like particularly competent police work. In fact it sounds a lot like simple 'racial profiling'...

True, there is no there evidence at all. (sidenote, believe me it's true, you will just have to take my word for it, I got no links, no sources, but I do know people who live there.)

[Snowhobbit]

...which is all just conjecture. Let's just ignore that the terrorists in Paris, for example, were EU citizens - ie there is no evidence AT ALL that terrorists are sneaking in among the refugees.

I do wonder what purpose EUROPOL thought there was in issuing a statement regarding how many numbers of terrorists MIGHT be entering Europe...without any evidence at all....doesn't sound like particularly competent police work. In fact it sounds a lot like simple 'racial profiling'...

While it is true that they were mostly (or all?) citizens of European countries, they also gained access and entry to Europe by hiding amongst the stream of refugees. Or should we ignore the passport that was registered as entering Greece as a refugee last summer being connected to the perps?

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

While it is true that they were mostly (or all?) citizens of European countries, they also gained access and entry to Europe by hiding amongst the stream of refugees. Or should we ignore the passport that was registered as entering Greece as a refugee last summer being connected to the perps?

You mean that passport that had nothing to do with the terrorists? That one? The thing is, French intelligence have stated they were watching this cell and knew they had returned to Europe from Syria (so...not by sneaking in with refugees...otherwise EUROPOL would have evidence, wouldn't they.)...and then 'lost' them.

You know...it's so easy to get people to believe something...just write it as a headline story. Doesn't matter if the story is later shown to have no truth to it....it'll always be the thing that people remember. Just like the idea that refugees are responsible for the New Year attacks on women...you might want to update yourselves on that information as well....

[wooly_mammoth]

Yup, everyone knows those women have sexually molested themselves and then they threw the blame on the immigrants.

[Snowhobbit]

You mean that passport that had nothing to do with the terrorists? That one? The thing is, French intelligence have stated they were watching this cell and knew they had returned to Europe from Syria (so...not by sneaking in with refugees...otherwise EUROPOL would have evidence, wouldn't they.)...and then 'lost' them.

You know...it's so easy to get people to believe something...just write it as a headline story. Doesn't matter if the story is later shown to have no truth to it....it'll always be the thing that people remember. Just like the idea that refugees are responsible for the New Year attacks on women...you might want to update yourselves on that information as well....

Yes, that passport found in connection to the group which entered Greece last summer, that passport. It is funny that you think the French intelligence was watching the cell, when the head of the cell was presumed to be in Syria until he was found in Paris in the shoot-out a couple of days after the first attack. But don't let facts get in the way of your argument, it is for a good cause after all.