IMMIGRATION thread

[Gilrandir]

And how many Libyans fled last year? Or are you saying the bombs were so big that the explosion reached all the way to the horn of Africa? And I'm pretty sure that if you think real hard you can find a more recent bombing of Libya...

You asked the direct question and I came up with an explicit answer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_m...ntion_in_Libya

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Again: the question was about bombing only.

I can assure you that I am not Kadagar,

I agree. Kadagar was not so quick to insult people.

Unless it is Kdagar who grew embittered with his experience.

[Snowhobbit]

You asked the direct question and I came up with an explicit answer.



Again: the question was about bombing only.


I agree. Kadagar was not so quick to insult people.

Unless it is Kdagar who grew embittered with his experience.

Yes, I asked a question with the intention of making a point. Once an answer has been received a further question needs to be posed to illustrate that point. My apologies if this was too complex for you, do try to answer the question. And I am reasonably sure that the military intervention included some amount of bombs.

Yes, the only thing separating me from a racist is that I am faster to insult. Good job Gil.

[Gilrandir]

Thirdly, context Frags, if a woman sees a man's penis and calls him a horse, or a stud after sex, she is not insulting him. It's a metaphor. Calling someone a pig is a metaphor for one's lack of table manners, or any manners for that matter, and can be done as a good natured jest, especially in male-female relationships or among friends. Comparing someone with hyenas is way worse than that, as hyenas are most commonly associated with something ugly, dirty, smelly, feeding on carcasses etc... None of the is true, actually, but we project that onto them. So, comparing someone with a hyena is very insulting. You already knew that, but you've already decided on the outcome, blah, blah, blah....

I don't see a comparison with a hyeana as something entirely different from comparison to a pig. I've heard people make hyena comparisons before in other contexts. When I didn't have my drivers license yet my instructor called bicycle and scooter drivers hyeanas whenever he saw them breaking trafic rules (happens often), like callously ignoring traffic lights when they think they can safely get away with it. Likewise, comparisons with vultures are commonplace when people are perceived to take financial advantage of other people's misery. The idea being that both hyenas and vultures are opportunistic and "cowardly". It's not flattering, but calling it "dehumanising" is a long stretch.

In fact, all of those examples are metaphors. Metaphor has nothing to do with evaluation. It appears whenever one concept domain is viewed as another concept domain. Evaluations imparted to the purpose of the process don't change its nature.

Yes, the only thing separating me from a racist is that I am faster to insult.

This is a delusion. Don't flatter yourself that there is only one thing.

[Snowhobbit]

This is a delusion. Don't flatter yourself that there is only one thing.

Why don't you just go back into the hole you crawled out of? Or did Russia take that back also?

[Gilrandir]

Why don't you just go back into the hole you crawled out of? Or did Russia take that back also?

The ultimate argument which is always handy. Didn't expect anything else, though.
Let's see what kind of hole immigrants will make your country into, Chillouthalfling.

[Snowhobbit]

The ultimate argument which is always handy. Didn't expect anything else, though.
Let's see what kind of hole immigrants will make your country into, Chillouthalfling.

Oh you are one of those? Sorry I don't have the time of day for Ukranian Nazies.