IMMIGRATION thread

[Sarmatian]

So which were the relevant organisations for the 7/7 and subsequent attacks? What are their demands?

Well, if MI6 has problems reaching conclusions based on the available intelligence, you really need to question how are your taxes spent.

Your democratically-elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world. And your support of them makes you directly responsible, just as I am directly responsible for protecting and avenging my Muslim brothers and sisters. Until we feel security you will be our targets and until you stop the bombing, gassing, imprisonment and torture of my people we will not stop this fight.

What have you witnessed now is only the beginning of a string of attacks that will continue and become stronger until you pull your forces out of Afghanistan and Iraq. And until you stop your financial and military support to America and Israel.

The relevant organization is al-Qaeda in this case, btw.

Here you have everything you need. The reason why, warning of future attacks, what to do to stop it and who to talk to about it.

[Pannonian]

Well, if MI6 has problems reaching conclusions based on the available intelligence, you really need to question how are your taxes spent.

The relevant organization is al-Qaeda in this case, btw.

Here you have everything you need. The reason why, warning of future attacks, what to do to stop it and who to talk to about it.

Do you agree that he believes in the point being made?

[Sarmatian]

Do you agree that he believes in the point being made?

It doesn't matter if he personally believes it or not. The second part of the quote was from Zawahiri, and added later. You have Al Qaeda planning the attack, recruiting the attackers, instructing them how to pull it off and probably giving the order to execute it. Then you have the then second-in-command, now leader of Al Qaeda explaining the political aspect.

It is not the issue of no political goal, it is that the political goal is unacceptable to the western countries.

[Pannonian]

It doesn't matter if he personally believes it or not. The second part of the quote was from Zawahiri, and added later. You have Al Qaeda planning the attack, recruiting the attackers, instructing them how to pull it off and probably giving the order to execute it. Then you have the then second-in-command, now leader of Al Qaeda explaining the political aspect.

It is not the issue of no political goal, it is that the political goal is unacceptable to the western countries.

More importantly, "Your democratically-elected governments continuously perpetuate atrocities against my people all over the world." If a born Briton can regard a foreign people as "my people", legitimising his act of violence against the country he was born and raised in, why the hell should we bring in yet more of "these people"? I say, give him what he wants, total withdrawal from the Muslim world, and at the same time a total embargo on the admission of more Muslims into the UK.

Except, of course, Al-Qaeda currently seem to think that they were wrong in prioritising the pursuit of violence against the west, allowing ISIS to trump them. No matter, give them what they want, even if they regret demanding it. Let's see what their next excuse is for bombing the west, and whether their apologists continue to blame the west for everything we do and don't do.

[Brenus]

"So which were the relevant organisations for the 7/7 and subsequent attacks? What are their demands?"
From Osama Bin Laden:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...24/theobserver

Clear enough, I would say...

[Pannonian]

"So which were the relevant organisations for the 7/7 and subsequent attacks? What are their demands?"
From Osama Bin Laden:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...24/theobserver

Clear enough, I would say...

See my subsequent reply to Sarmatian. By pointing out the message from MSK (I refrain from posting his full name), he just confirms my feelings that that community will tend to produce people who will de-integrate from British society, to the point of pursuing violence against the country that raised them. I don't want any more Muslims entering the UK, whatever the arguments about economics or humane treatment. They're not worth the hassle.