Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
"I cannot see god therefore he doesnt exist."

Tell me how many of the muslims you know are poor, how many are migrants, first generation, second? How many of them have you gone out and asked if they celebrate? How many of them would answer you truthfully if they did?

I dare say all of us british orgahs have similar experiences of british muslims, most of them are integrated fine and even ones that are not are sure to put on a brave face while in public but it is fallacious in the extreme to dismiss the existance of a undercurrent of sympathy just because you personally, as an outsider looking in, have not knowingly encountered it.
I see you are shifting your argument somewhat now. Now it's only particular Muslims we need to watch or....they're lying to me. Yes, that's it. They're just very good liars. Those perfectly normal family lives, relationships we discuss.....? All just made up to cover their bomb-making and arms smuggling. Why those dirty scoundrels....why I oughta...!!



Let me remind you of what I was responding to:

"...What the Muslims demonstrate is that, unlike nearly every other immigrant community, there is no reliable process of integration for them. However well any individual or generation integrates, there is a high likelihood that somewhere along the line there will be someone who decides they are Muslims first and British nowhere, and that this justifies violence against the British people...."

"What the Muslims demonstrate"...you know like all of them, or the vast majority..."..there is no reliable process of integration for them..."

Rabid, vacuous nonsense.