IMMIGRATION thread

[Gaius Sempronius Gracchus]

I'm shifting my argument from one I have not made? Are you incapable of differentiating one speaker from another?

I was slapping you down for making a stupid argument, I dont really care what you were responding to, the fact remains the average man will rarely voice an opinion he holds that is deemed unpopular or even treasonous by society save behind closed doors. The lack of anyone openly admitting to such views withing your narrow perview does in no way make the presence of such sentiments an impossibility.

My apologies, both to you and Pannonian. So...they're all liars? That's all you've got? I should ignore my own experience and believe the hype. All these Muslims...they're a menace, they can't be integrated ('into decent society' is the undertow dragging this argument along). I know the people I speak of. I am more extreme in my views than they are. I feel sympathy for those poor buggers being bombed out of their homes. The majority of the people in this country didn't want our government to increase their misery. They took no notice. Just as they took no notice of the marches and demonstrations against invading Iraq. They went ahead and did it anyway.

The majority of Muslims in the UK (the VAST majority) have no time for the Salafist, Wahabist 'Islam' proclaimed by ISIS..they are outright disdainful of and disgusted by it. Because these people (because that is what they are) are appalled by what is going on in 'our name' does not make them terrorist sympathisers, any more than my being appalled by what is going on in 'our name' makes me a terrorist sympathiser.

Your (and Pannonian's) references to the state of the Muslim communities in our country are wholly divergent from reality.