IMMIGRATION thread

**Fragony** · 03-04-2016, 13:33

Originally Posted by Husar

Memba this?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/200...y.kateconnolly

but but but... that changes everything! Suddenly there is no more an uncontrollable influx of people there simply is no future for. It's better if they know that prior to trying, for everybody.

**Husar** · 03-04-2016, 18:34

Originally Posted by Fragony

but but but... that changes everything! Suddenly there is no more an uncontrollable influx of people there simply is no future for. It's better if they know that prior to trying, for everybody.

Why can every country on earth have people with no future but we can't?

**Fragony** · 03-04-2016, 19:57

Originally Posted by Husar

Why can every country on earth have people with no future but we can't?

Because we could but won't? Isn't it a bit cruel to give false hope in the end. We both know that it was a bad idea comming here, everything they once had is useless here, a Syrian brain-surgeon who lost everything is still going to be sleeping in one of the hundreds of beds in a gym. All we can do is mob it up and throw it in a bucket in the end, we can't provide what they think we can.

**Greyblades** · 03-04-2016, 23:59

...really? Is the syrian standards of of brain surgery outdated or something?

**Snowhobbit** · 03-05-2016, 08:00

Originally Posted by Greyblades

...really? Is the syrian standards of of brain surgery outdated or something?

No, but the German bureaucracy is overworked beyond reason, and before you get to do brain surgery you probably have to verify your education and experience etc. I would guess it takes 2-3 years until he is anywhere close to where he would want to be.

**Husar** · 03-05-2016, 00:00

Originally Posted by Fragony

Because we could but won't? Isn't it a bit cruel to give false hope in the end.

What false hope? If they actually flee from a war we offer them a chance to get a life here. I'm not aware anyone from here offered them much more.

Originally Posted by Fragony

We both know that it was a bad idea comming here, everything they once had is useless here, a Syrian brain-surgeon who lost everything is still going to be sleeping in one of the hundreds of beds in a gym. All we can do is mob it up and throw it in a bucket in the end, we can't provide what they think we can.

Now you're confusing what is achievable in the short term and what is achievable in the long term. A brain surgeon can get a job here in the long term. Other people can't, there was a story of an Afghan who hoped to get a better job here but was disappointed and left again. The German government now pays the Afghan government to advertise their own country so fewer people come here. The thing is that when people have no hope in their own country, they usually look elsewhere, it is not new and merely human nature, nothing we can do.

**Fragony** · 03-05-2016, 07:37

Of course people have always looked for better places, but the current situation is different, they come here en-masse because the childless mutti invited them here. There is no precedent to this. The brain-surgeon was sarcasm most migrants have little to no education at al. Almost all young men who have no hope of getting a job or a woman, bound to get frustrated. That's the long-term

**Gaius Sempronius Gracchus** · 03-05-2016, 10:19

Originally Posted by Fragony

Of course people have always looked for better places, but the current situation is different, they come here en-masse because the childless mutti invited them here. There is no precedent to this. The brain-surgeon was sarcasm most migrants have little to no education at al. Almost all young men who have no hope of getting a job or a woman, bound to get frustrated. That's the long-term

You don't think that the movement "en-masse" has rather more to do with the places they used to live being bombed into oblivion? You understand that whatever Merkel said, that leads to you referring to her with such misogynistic flourish, was a reaction to a situation of the movements of people en-masse....so they were already moving.

**Shaka_Khan** · 03-05-2016, 11:47

Why is it the EUs responsibility help the migrants?

The EU didn't tell them to come. The migrants chose the EU because the European OECD countries are the closest OECD countries.

**Fragony** · 03-05-2016, 15:09

Originally Posted by Gaius Sempronius Gracchus

You don't think that the movement "en-masse" has rather more to do with the places they used to live being bombed into oblivion? You understand that whatever Merkel said, that leads to you referring to her with such misogynistic flourish, was a reaction to a situation of the movements of people en-masse....so they were already moving.

I understand what she said in another interview, she wants to show the world that Germany has changed and have learned from itls nazi-past, she is insane and is dragging Europe into her maelström of insanity. Any psycholigist would agree that it is very relevant that she's barren, and that she has a messias-complex. The only place she ought to be is in a padded cell strapped itn a selfhugsuit.

**Snowhobbit** · 03-14-2016, 10:24

Originally Posted by Gaius Sempronius Gracchus

You don't think that the movement "en-masse" has rather more to do with the places they used to live being bombed into oblivion? You understand that whatever Merkel said, that leads to you referring to her with such misogynistic flourish, was a reaction to a situation of the movements of people en-masse....so they were already moving.

Neither Africa nor Pakistan is being bombed "en-masse", and though Turkey has had an increase in terror bombings to my knowledge they have not targeted refugee camps. But I know you don't like facts, so don't worry too much.