IMMIGRATION thread

[Husar]

Ooooh, might want to add that it is Goggle translate (because it makes no sense), but thanks for the link Greyblades, I had no idea what Fragony was on about again....

Schäuble says a lot of crazy things, but this is just going a bit far perhaps. He says especially Turkish women integrated well, which is not universally true, but true for some indeed. Of course for us, Kurdish people are Turks as well, at least before we talk to them and learn they are Kurdish. I wish I could replace myself with a Sudanese person, but race change operations have not been invented yet, so sad...

[Fragony]

It's frankly outragious what he says, do you let idiots like that make decisions on things. Germans are perfectly healthy people there is no inbreeding whatsoever, immigrants should always be welcome but he has bigger ideas. Be wary of idiots in high positions like the childless mutti and Schauble, they have something to prove. Germany seems to feel so guilty over what happened but everyone who points a finger points three back. The trauma in the German psyche starts to be a problem, it already is really, the childless mutti and those who still want to take resposibility. It wasn't you you idiots, it was everybody.

The new stephard wives-Germany scares me much more

[Husar]

It's frankly outragious what he says, do you let idiots like that make decisions on things. Germans are perfectly healthy people there is no inbreeding whatsoever, immigrants should always be welcome but he has bigger ideas. Be wary of idiots in high positions like the childless mutti and Schauble, they have something to prove. Germany seems to feel so guilty over what happened but everyone who points a finger points three back. The trauma in the German psyche starts to be a problem, it already is really, the childless mutti and those who still want to take resposibility. It wasn't you you idiots, it was everybody.

The new stephard wives-Germany scares me much more

It is really strange how you try to follow everything back to a supposedly super strong guilt-complex.
I'd think both Merkel and Schäuble are way too cold to feel guilty about something.
More likely they're bringing in more cheap workers so corporations can lower wages further.
And then corporations will pay even fewer taxes and they'll have to find a way to punish the lazy unemployed people more for being so lazy and expensive.
The economy is doing great though...

[Greyblades]

Yeah, sorry, I couldnt find a non google translation, german gaffes dont get much coverage in english media, go figure. The headline was probably clear enough.

As for the guilt complex, it's likely not to be as pervasive as fragony thinks, but it is hard to imagine this happening without at least this guy feeling some of it.

Even if it is primarily greed related it's weird his mind went to such a self disparaging place when coming up with excuses. I mean I dont think even the Red Army propaganda would think you guys being inbred because of your population size was a plausable enough lie to run with... Though now that I think about it, it might have gone over pretty convincingly considering the nazi genetic ideal was based off recessive genes.

[Husar]

Even if it is primarily greed related it's weird his mind went to such a self disparaging place when coming up with excuses. I mean I dont think even the Red Army propaganda would think you guys being inbred because of your population size was a plausable enough lie to run with... Though now that I think about it, it might have gone over pretty convincingly considering the nazi genetic ideal was based off recessive genes.

If he thinks that it makes it harder for most people to argue against it, why not?

I don't care too much about what he says though, he's an old man from a conservative party and he's not the Chancellor.
Quite a few of the things he says never seem to make it anywhere so why should I get worked up just because he had another crazy idea?
Not that I mind the idea of having children with a woman who is not blonde and blue-eyed, quite the contrary...

[Fragony]

Fuels the thought that this isn't an immigration-crisis but concious policy to replace europeans. That is an existing political theory, the childless mutti won an award for persuing it. Germany, once again

Koudenove-Kalerzi plan, nice award. Multiculturalists are soooooo dangerous, especially when someone as powerfull as the known stasi childless mutti pulls the strings in the EU

[Gilrandir]

I don't care too much about what he says though, he's an old man from a conservative party and he's not the Chancellor.

If similar messages were heard from someone of Ukrainian political "elite" the attitude here would be rather different, now would it? But if it is an old conservative German gaffer, it is pardonable, isn't it? It tarnishes the reputation of his boss in no way, does it?

[Fragony]

If similar messages were heard from someone of Ukrainian political "elite" the attitude here would be rather different, now would it?

Rest assured, it's getting no attention at all. If the political elite in Ukraine said that all who think differently should be skinned alive with a ball in their mouth it 'quality media' will ignore that as well, they live from advertisements of companies that recieve free EU money

You Ukrainens should think this over so hard, you are making yourself a proxy-zone, be glad we Dutchies a(not our current gornment) aree there as we don't want that, but they have to listen first and they probably won't. The stop of the association-treaty would be the best news you ever got.

[Gilrandir]

Rest assured, it's getting no attention at all. If the political elite in Ukraine said that all who think differently should be skinned alive with a ball in their mouth it 'quality media' will ignore that as well, they live from advertisements of companies that recieve free EU money

I meant not in the press, but on these boards.

we Dutchies a(not our current gornment) aree there as we don't want that

You present your personal opinion as the one of the whole nation.

The stop of the association-treaty would be the best news you ever got.

An arbitrary statement.

[Fragony]

The opinion of the ones who voted only, a shame it will be inored probably